Good luck with that. Looks like you've been a member for an entire week. You are probabaly lucky to get your game going, let alone do a reskin. HAHAHAHA!!!:hehe: :hehe: Don't forget your finger paints HAHAHA!!!
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I'm gonna vent here
- Thread starter Wyonate
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Probably because they had to jump thru all the hoops and possibly fork over some cash too. Not to mention hours, weeks, and it some cases Months some have put into it. We should be pleased that most of it is freeware.
Retro00064
New member
+1.
Whatever content I create myself can be reused as desired. I just request to be credited for the original. If portions of the content are by others or derived from other's stuff then the licensing of those portions may of course be different.
It would be nice if many more of the content creators around here licensed their content similarly, but that may not happen until pigs fly. Nevertheless I still respect others' copyrights.
I understand what you are saying - freeware is distributed without any licences and often with no restrictions, and the content of the DLS is certainly freeware. But there is (or should be) a distinction between:
- modifying someone else's work and redistributing it (i.e. upload it to the DLS) as your own work, and
- modifying someone else's work and redistributing it with an acknowledgement (with or without expressed permission) of the original creator
It is certainly true that detecting any such "violations" can be difficult. Dealing with them can be impossible if the original creator cannot be contacted.
Peter Ware
It's annoying, to be sure, but it's something you have to suck up if you want to enjoy your hobby. I spent hundreds if not thousands of hours creating freeware for Microsoft Flight Sim. Lots of people repackaged it as their own. It p.o. me for sure, but it was still well worth it (and a lot of fun too!)
IsambardKingdomBrunel
Joined June 2001
I have already created something, not a reskin but definitely i created it.
Might not be a spelling bee, but your lack of education and ignorance.
Only persuades me to ignore the rubbish you post, all the more.
IKB.
ZecMurphy
Community Assistant
If the personal attacks continue, this thread will be closed, and we will take further action on those who continue with personal attacks.
In regards to freeware, this is NOT the same as 'public domain'.
Unless the creator specifically states otherwise (either via the license in the asset's config.txt, or elsewhere), the content is NOT public domain, and as such permission must be sought if you wish to release a modified/reskinned version of the asset.
Most creators are quite happy to allow reskins, if they are contacted first. Some may not allow reskins, and this is their choice.
As stated earlier, if an item is uploaded without permission, then the original creator can contact us to request the item be removed.
If you are not worried about reskins/modifications, then please add this into your asset's license. However, the original creator is the only one who can say if they want to allow reskins of their content (or modified content), and as such if the license doesn't give permission for reskins, then you must contact the original creator before releasing the reskins.
In regards to freeware, this is NOT the same as 'public domain'.
Unless the creator specifically states otherwise (either via the license in the asset's config.txt, or elsewhere), the content is NOT public domain, and as such permission must be sought if you wish to release a modified/reskinned version of the asset.
Most creators are quite happy to allow reskins, if they are contacted first. Some may not allow reskins, and this is their choice.
As stated earlier, if an item is uploaded without permission, then the original creator can contact us to request the item be removed.
If you are not worried about reskins/modifications, then please add this into your asset's license. However, the original creator is the only one who can say if they want to allow reskins of their content (or modified content), and as such if the license doesn't give permission for reskins, then you must contact the original creator before releasing the reskins.
IsambardKingdomBrunel
Joined June 2001
No personal attacks from me Zec, i was merely saying what i think.
I did not realise that Australia and in connection N3V, had a adopted a totalitarian regime in regards expressing individual views.
IKB.
I did not realise that Australia and in connection N3V, had a adopted a totalitarian regime in regards expressing individual views.
IKB.
Just as your right to swing your arms about stops at the other person's nose, expressing individual views must also have a limit. Libel and slander are the extreme cases but rude and impolite come to mind.
As a friend of mine was wont to say, hate the sin, not the sinner so attack the idea not the person.
As a friend of mine was wont to say, hate the sin, not the sinner so attack the idea not the person.
I agree that this thread is getting out of hand Zec, but lets see if we can bring it back to a frank discussion as it will do some good to newer members, as it is letting them know that it is necessary to ask for permission before re-skinning, and that a good thing.
But for goodness sake people have a bit of common decency and do the right thing,
Zec, is it possible for there to be a sort of password entry that could be incorporated in to the Kuids that only the creator can give, that allows permission to re-skin an object, so that if the password is not present the re-skin upload is automatically rejected. I know this won't work on unscrupulous private sites, but it may solve a lot of bad feeling, among the community.
But for goodness sake people have a bit of common decency and do the right thing,
Zec, is it possible for there to be a sort of password entry that could be incorporated in to the Kuids that only the creator can give, that allows permission to re-skin an object, so that if the password is not present the re-skin upload is automatically rejected. I know this won't work on unscrupulous private sites, but it may solve a lot of bad feeling, among the community.
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There are tags you can add to your config that does not allow it to be opened for edit (including cloning) in CMP. I don't recall what they are off hand however. I am also unsure if these tags allow you (the creator) to open them for edit or if everyone is locked out.
peter
peter
shaneturner12
Tutorial Creator
That would be permit-editing (I think) or permit-edit.
Needs to be added in a privileges container.
(Ask blue_sky_interactive, that user has made use of that feature)
Shane
Needs to be added in a privileges container.
(Ask blue_sky_interactive, that user has made use of that feature)
Shane
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Well you could in theory find it in the local folder via a manual search outside CMP, find the config, and well you know the rest....
My opinion on it is if the engine is out there freeware you should automatically have rights to reskin it and put on download station. I mean why not its out to the public why have permission to use it when its freeware the original mesh? Am I the only one seeing this. I mean now if you reskining payware and uploading that's a whole another ball park.
Retro00064
New member
There is a difference between freeware and free software. The former term generally refers to proprietary software; the latter refers to software licensed under a free software license, which gives the licensee more rights such as to redistribute the work, make derivative works from the original work, etc.
It seems that a large portion of the Trainz content creators make their content proprietary software.
The N3V website is available for viewing on the Internet for free. That does not mean that I can grab images, text, etc. off of it and redistribute it or distribute derivative works of it without permission. Similarly, I can't do such stuff to proprietary Trainz content without permission.
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@Beattie -
Free content in the public domain is perfectly fine to modify and upload as you wish. Freeware is NOT always PD, as above; you are licensed to use the content, but it still remains the property of the creator, and you need to talk to them before doing anything like releasing your reskin of the content.
EDIT: @Retro00064 - Simulposting! :hehe:
Free content in the public domain is perfectly fine to modify and upload as you wish. Freeware is NOT always PD, as above; you are licensed to use the content, but it still remains the property of the creator, and you need to talk to them before doing anything like releasing your reskin of the content.
EDIT: @Retro00064 - Simulposting! :hehe: