Hey Trainz Community, I was wondering if there is a way to recover my assets and content that I lost when I transfered drives. My C: drive was full, due to TRS22, so I moved the files to my D: drive, making sure to go step-by-step on the help guide, but when I finished my custom route was completely wiped as well as my third-party assets and even things from the download station in the content manager. Begging for any solution, I want to finish my project soon.
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I recently moved Trainz onto a different drive using the tutorial, but all of my custom/downloaded assets are gone. Any way I can recover them?
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At the Launcher, click on Trainz settings.
Click on the Install tab.
Inside the white space is the path to the automatically created data folder that was put there because your install didn't find the one that you moved.
Click on the ... on the far right.
An explorer window will open up.
Browse to where you moved your data folder to.
Click on the folder you see in the Explorer window.
Click on Select.
A quick "Building translation tables will occur" and you'll need to restart.
When this is done...
Start up the Launcher again and see if it works.
Click on the Install tab.
Inside the white space is the path to the automatically created data folder that was put there because your install didn't find the one that you moved.
Click on the ... on the far right.
An explorer window will open up.
Browse to where you moved your data folder to.
Click on the folder you see in the Explorer window.
Click on Select.
A quick "Building translation tables will occur" and you'll need to restart.
When this is done...
Start up the Launcher again and see if it works.
The automatically generated folder is the one on C: drive, correct? In that case, the one I see is the one I moved the files to on D: drive. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a bit new to this.At the Launcher, click on Trainz settings.
Click on the Install tab.
Inside the white space is the path to the automatically created data folder that was put there because your install didn't find the one that you moved.
Click on the ... on the far right.
An explorer window will open up.
Browse to where you moved your data folder to.
Click on the folder you see in the Explorer window.
Click on Select.
A quick "Building translation tables will occur" and you'll need to restart.
When this is done...
Start up the Launcher again and see if it works.
The steps I followed were essentially:
- Create a new folder for your data
- Copy the files from your old data folder to the new one, and paste the path to the new data folder into the "Local Data Folder" bar.
- Then I proceeded to delet the old "build-xxxxxxxxxx" file in the old data folder beacuse I needed space
I was asking if there was somehow a way to undo my steps or recover the file as it didn't go into recycle bin due to the size.
- Create a new folder for your data
- Copy the files from your old data folder to the new one, and paste the path to the new data folder into the "Local Data Folder" bar.
- Then I proceeded to delet the old "build-xxxxxxxxxx" file in the old data folder beacuse I needed space
I was asking if there was somehow a way to undo my steps or recover the file as it didn't go into recycle bin due to the size.
It looks like I missed that part of your post. I got interrupted by an elder parent and a phone call and resumed editing.
Correct. The data is on the C: drive by default under the app data/local path.
Many of us, who have additional drives and space, will place the folder elsewhere and also call it something else such as TRS22-Data-folder instead of Build xxxxxx.
It sounds to me that TRS22 created a default database and didn't see your new location.
Did you have to put in your login again?
If you did then that indicates that TRS22 created a default folder.
Make sure the path is correct. Instead of copying and pasting the path, use the ... and browse to the location and select it. I have found this to "stick better" than the copy-paste.
The better method would've been to copy the existing data folder to the new location and ensure that everything worked after selecting that folder prior to removing the old one. Unfortunately, if your data was deleted and somehow your data didn't copy over properly, you are SOL. Those so-called data recovery tools don't work as well as they used to due to Windows writing so much data on the drives.
Not to reiterate, but backups are extremely important no matter what the data is. They may seem unimportant until we need them just like insurance, they are there for a reason. There are different ways of backing up including using utilities to do so. I use FastCopy and TeraCopy to perform differential and full backups to an external hard drive. These backups have saved my backside a number of times for a number of reasons including my stupidity, a failing hard drive, and more stupidity.
Correct. The data is on the C: drive by default under the app data/local path.
Many of us, who have additional drives and space, will place the folder elsewhere and also call it something else such as TRS22-Data-folder instead of Build xxxxxx.
It sounds to me that TRS22 created a default database and didn't see your new location.
Did you have to put in your login again?
If you did then that indicates that TRS22 created a default folder.
Make sure the path is correct. Instead of copying and pasting the path, use the ... and browse to the location and select it. I have found this to "stick better" than the copy-paste.
The better method would've been to copy the existing data folder to the new location and ensure that everything worked after selecting that folder prior to removing the old one. Unfortunately, if your data was deleted and somehow your data didn't copy over properly, you are SOL. Those so-called data recovery tools don't work as well as they used to due to Windows writing so much data on the drives.
Not to reiterate, but backups are extremely important no matter what the data is. They may seem unimportant until we need them just like insurance, they are there for a reason. There are different ways of backing up including using utilities to do so. I use FastCopy and TeraCopy to perform differential and full backups to an external hard drive. These backups have saved my backside a number of times for a number of reasons including my stupidity, a failing hard drive, and more stupidity.
stagecoach
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The path should end at the build folder not the data folder.
They are referring to the same. Build-xxxxxx is the data-folder. I call mine, located on my E: drive, PLUS_DATA.The path should end at the build folder not the data folder.
stagecoach
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- Then I proceeded to delet the old "build-xxxxxxxxxx" file in the old data folder beacuse I needed space
This would mean that the build folder is inside his data folder.
- Then I proceeded to delet the old "build-xxxxxxxxxx" file in the old data folder beacuse I needed space
This would mean that the build folder is inside his data folder.
It turns out that stagecoach was correct, and I didn't add the build folder named "build-xxxxxx" into the local data folder path. I essentially created a new folder in the same location, but on D: drive (so ...\appdata\N3VGames\[new folder]) which is named Trainz_2022 and copied the "build-xxxxxx" folder into the new folder, and chose the path of the folder I created instead of the one I copied over. It all works now, thank you everyone for your help.
sultan1966
Crazy Train Engineer
Great assistance stagecoach and John. This is next on my list of experiments. Going to try on my old 5 bay Drobo NAS.. Backups/FileSync elsewhere of course.
My data is located on an external USB-C Oyen 5-bay external enclosure. The access speed is a bit faster than the internal SATA drive and the enclosure allows for hot swapping if I opt to do that, which I haven't.Great assistance stagecoach and John. This is next on my list of experiments. Going to try on my old 5 bay Drobo NAS.. Backups/FileSync elsewhere of course.
At one point, I tried using a file-share to access my data-folder from another computer. The issue I had was the access time was way too slow and periodically I'd lose connection to the data. That was in the early days with T:ANE and I think the last time I tried that with TRS19 it no longer worked.
What you don't want to do is access the same data-folder from multiple Trainz installs. That can cause weird things to happen that lead to data corruption. It's best, more than a recommended practice, to have a separate data-folder for each version you have installed.
sultan1966
Crazy Train Engineer
@JCitron Yep Drobo wasn't cutting it across my 1GB network. Had to try. Those Oyens look amazing and priced right. Have you had any issues related to HW/SW/FW? Website doesn't show any new firmware since 22 and none at all for the Fortis. Do you use their RAID solution or do you use another? I don't like proprietary RAID.
May be pulling the plug on the Fortis 5C..the one w/ a handle even though I don't need a handle, however the Mobius Pro 5C has a serious discount on AMZN right now.
May be pulling the plug on the Fortis 5C..the one w/ a handle even though I don't need a handle, however the Mobius Pro 5C has a serious discount on AMZN right now.
My Oyen is set up as JBOD. I took existing Ironwolf 8TB drives and put them in the Oyen. I couldn't get the firmware to update either and since everything is working, I'm not going to risk losing what I already have.@JCitron Yep Drobo wasn't cutting it across my 1GB network. Had to try. Those Oyens look amazing and priced right. Have you had any issues related to HW/SW/FW? Website doesn't show any new firmware since 22 and none at all for the Fortis. Do you use their RAID solution or do you use another? I don't like proprietary RAID.
May be pulling the plug on the Fortis 5C..the one w/ a handle even though I don't need a handle, however the Mobius Pro 5C has a serious discount on AMZN right now.
The setup works fine except for a Windows issue with one disk which disconnects all the time due to a duplicate GUID ID. I ended up putting that 12 TB drive inside my PC instead. There's nothing like accessing the drive and having it disconnect in the middle of the read or write! From what I read, this is a Windows issue and the solution is to enter in a new GUID using Diskpart.exe but I can't get that to work.
The Mobius Pro RAID units are nice. I looked at those and they were quite expensive when I was setting up my new computer a few years ago. If I went this route, I would need to set up new disks because I didn't and still don't want to lose my current data. I have a lot of other programs and data in addition to Trainz and its huge database including music editing software and my own piano recordings.
I ended up getting the Oyen because my old computer decided to croak when the hardware was at the highest prices in history. I went with a Dell XPS 8950 and the Oyen because there's not enough space inside for all the disks. My old case was a Crucial 950 from 2008 and there's a lot of space and cooling unlike many new cases today.
The Dell has pretty bad cooling and I have to run the computer with the side off. The latest model, XPS 8960? that's out now has improved cooling which means Dell actually listened to the users this time. From what I read on the forums when I was researching the cooling issue, after I ended up in shock as I saw the temps skyrocket and my RTX 3080 throttle, many people run their computers the same way.
sultan1966
Crazy Train Engineer
@JCitron Based on your suggestion I have had my new Oyen Mobius Pro 5C (3N5-C-M) (AMZ-$154 -$70 off company price) for a few weeks now. It has a USB-C "TBolt 3/4" and another USB-C hub for daisy chaining devices. It has been going flawlessly. Deciding whether I want it powered up at the time. Leaning towards no shutdown/sleep. Great purchase!! Thank You!
I have used as a DAS on both a MacBook Pro w/M3 and also thru an old 2011 Mac mini server w/Sonoma via OCLP which I use Remote Desktop as a "headless" server. I plan on getting a new Mac mini if they release it next month to use as my TRAINZ Rig on the new RAID 10 vs the new M3 Macbook I have been using as TRAINZ sucks battery.
Mac OS disk utility (GUI) won't let you build a RAID 10/0+1, only 1/5/JBOD, so I went to Terminal and did some "Keyboard Kungfu" and now RAID 10/0+1 is up and running via Mac OS Sequoia Beta 9.
To make things simple.. I used 4 "like" drives, 5 if you want to use it as a single to fill a 5-bay enclosure. I built 2 different Mirror sets out of those 4 "like" drives and then used the 2 new Mirrored sets it created to create a single Stripe. Sticking with RAID 10/0+1.
*If anyone tries to do this Be Very Careful as you can Destroy files which you Will Not get back.*
"Rule of 3" .. 2 Backups up your data with a 3rd "Offsite". "Offsite" can be what you want as most of us aren't companies/businesses with essential and sensitive data and apps. John Thanks again for your suggestion on Oyen enclosures.
I have used as a DAS on both a MacBook Pro w/M3 and also thru an old 2011 Mac mini server w/Sonoma via OCLP which I use Remote Desktop as a "headless" server. I plan on getting a new Mac mini if they release it next month to use as my TRAINZ Rig on the new RAID 10 vs the new M3 Macbook I have been using as TRAINZ sucks battery.
Mac OS disk utility (GUI) won't let you build a RAID 10/0+1, only 1/5/JBOD, so I went to Terminal and did some "Keyboard Kungfu" and now RAID 10/0+1 is up and running via Mac OS Sequoia Beta 9.
To make things simple.. I used 4 "like" drives, 5 if you want to use it as a single to fill a 5-bay enclosure. I built 2 different Mirror sets out of those 4 "like" drives and then used the 2 new Mirrored sets it created to create a single Stripe. Sticking with RAID 10/0+1.
*If anyone tries to do this Be Very Careful as you can Destroy files which you Will Not get back.*
"Rule of 3" .. 2 Backups up your data with a 3rd "Offsite". "Offsite" can be what you want as most of us aren't companies/businesses with essential and sensitive data and apps. John Thanks again for your suggestion on Oyen enclosures.
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You are welcome. I'm glad you found their enclosure as awesome as I did. I considered building a RAID but opted for a J-BOD since I wanted to preserve my existing data.
I will say the access time is amazing compared to the internal SATA ports and this is using relatively new hard drives and not SSDs. Someday when I can afford it, I'll get another enclosure and move my data on to SSDs and use the hard drives for backups.
I will say the access time is amazing compared to the internal SATA ports and this is using relatively new hard drives and not SSDs. Someday when I can afford it, I'll get another enclosure and move my data on to SSDs and use the hard drives for backups.
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