I Need help with signaling, please.

[thegrindre]

Been experimenting a little more and run into this funny issue.

Here's the set up; I'm sending two trains from opposite directions on the route to meet at one of the loops. (Doesn't matter which one, just to meet.) And, they do at the right loop with a 'mexican stand off'. OK, I decide to place another signal on a stub line, which happens to be where I'm starting one of the trains from, and they meet again as usual but this time, one of the trains backs up and decides to take the passing loop this time. Question is, why didn't the train take the passing loop to begin with when approaching it instead of going through the 'mexican stand off' thing and then backing up to take the passing loop??? It had about a 1/4 mile to make the decision to take the passing loop before it got there... (Strange...)

 

[john259]

Can I tentatively suggest that the real answer here might be to use Trainz Pro Routes' Scenario Creation System?

John

 

[Dermmy]

I know exactly the situation you are describing Rick. I haven't tried this, but suspect it might help. Set the default state of the junctions to favour the longer route - presumably thru the sidings. The first train will change the junctions to take the shorter route, but I have a hunch that the AI will more readily find the alternate route with the junctions defaulting to it.

Just a hunch, but simple enough to try....

Andy

 

[thegrindre]

Interesting idea, Andy. I hadn't thought of that. I'll try it...

Again, thank you all very much for all your alternative suggestions but at this time I'm only trying to set up a simple signaling system with invisible signals.

Thanks,

 

[SpikeTop]

I tried that, Andy and it didn't work. All trains seem to want to take the shortest route from point X to point Z and the sidings weren't the shortest way.

Thanks though,

Spike

 

[Ian_Coleman]

Re sinalling help

I have set up a test layout following the diagram with the two passing loops, and experimenting with various combinations with signals, but I have hit a new problem:-

I have place direction markers within the passing loops to ensure that trains keep to the left when within the loops. However, the trains completely ignore one of the direction markers!

I have used direction markers on many occasions in the past and have never had a problem. It is completely frustrating for this to occur at this time as I believe I may have solved the signalling problem, but until I have resolved the direction marker problem I can't test it.

Just in case anyone is wondering, I do know that direction markers are used to show which way a train can't travel!

Any suggestions please?

Ian

Ian

 

[thegrindre]

Not sure this thread is still as active as it once was but have you tried one directional marker inside one loop and another on the mainline at the other loop? Two markers only.

I've totally given up on this problem. I believe it was one of Auran's biggest mistakes by not following the 'rules of railroading' when it comes to signals.:n:
Freelanced signaling is nothing but a nightmare that doesn't work.:n: Just look how long this thread is and how many answers have been posted that don't work.
Let alone the hours and hours I've spent experimenting with it to find out that nothing that I've done so far works every time.

 

[rnbariz]

Signalling diagrams

I have put together several signalling diagrams which works well on my routes. How can I get them to you? Send me email. r n b a r i z @ a o l . com

 

[thegrindre]

Thank you. I just found this post and sent you an e-mail.
If you don't hear from me, please PM me here. You might inadvertently end up in my spam file by accident.