I’m retiring from Trainz

I have tried 3 times to retire from Trainz in the last few months, and I even wrote/ranted about it. It just does not work. Trainz is by far a drug in my book. You take a little, and then want more and more. Sanity be damned. Sleep be damned. I've been gaming off and on since 1978 (started with PONG), and no game (not Sim City, Final Fantasy VII, Age of Empires, Super Mario Bros., Civilization, Cities: Skylines, etc) has EVER hooked me so deep into idolatry.

Trainz is a curse that I keep coming back to despite all attempts to quit. Trainz is like the movie Freaks. "One of us, one of us, one of us" or "there are no other games, only Zuul."
 
good evening
I just changed my computer for a laptop I bought a cooler and I play Trainz 2022 PE without problem, also railroad on line too, maximum temperature in game 70°

Processeur 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM)i7-13620H (2.40 GHz)
Mémoire RAM installée 16,0 Go(15,7 Go utilisable)
Type du système Systèmed’exploitation 64 bits, processeur x64
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6GB Laptop GPU
 
skittlekicks said:
I have tried 3 times to retire from Trainz in the last few months, and I even wrote/ranted about it. It just does not work. Trainz is by far a drug in my book. You take a little, and then want more and more. Sanity be damned. Sleep be damned. I've been gaming off and on since 1978 (started with PONG), and no game (not Sim City, Final Fantasy VII, Age of Empires, Super Mario Bros., Civilization, Cities: Skylines, etc) has EVER hooked me so deep into idolatry.

Trainz is a curse that I keep coming back to despite all attempts to quit. Trainz is like the movie Freaks. "One of us, one of us, one of us" or "there are no other games, only Zuul."
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HA ! I started by being a pinball addict in the early 70's. That's still my favorite drug.........however TRAINZ is even a worse addiction . Just to show how deep this got, I've even moved from one region in the US to another , just to be close to where I was building my Trainz route. ..........that's pretty bad.......and took courage just now to admit it. I should have cried out for help. I'm so ashamed.
 
JimDep said:
HA ! I started by being a pinball addict in the early 70's. That's still my favorite drug.........however TRAINZ is even a worse addiction . Just to show how deep this got, I've even moved from one region in the US to another , just to be close to where I was building my Trainz route. ..........that's pretty bad.......and took courage just now to admit it. I should have cried out for help. I'm so ashamed.
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Well on that move, you have me beat there. I've become the dude in the corner curled up against the wall rocking back and forward when I don't play Trainz for a while.

I don't really live near tracks anymore (though my brother and sister-in-law do and I'll go walking to them and wait for the trains to go by every 20 minutes).

The tracks that were around my location have all been ripped out and replaced by silly walking/bike trails. When I do pass train lines, I'm always sad never to see signals at turnouts, or the other types (I think they have been replaced with newer WiFi tech).
 
This thread really grabbed my attention, and reading skittlekicks rant posted a while back about the absorption these types of games have on some of us made me at least feel a little better that im not alone. Im new to Trianz, but its quickly consuming my every waking hour, and much of my sleep as well. Ive always liked more complex and in-depth games, being a big fan of the Paradox series like CK3, EU4, Victoria 3 and a multitude of other similar games, so it comes as no surprise to me that i would get pretty wrapped up in the Trainz frenzy. Im actually quite shocked I never picked it up before, having played most every train game out there. And to see just how old the game really is was a big eye-opener. At any rate, I love jumping into new games like this, and I'm having a ball finally being able to build my dream railroad, even if it is virtual. And at 60 years of age, its also comforting to see that I'm not the oldest one in the group. Ive been reading a lot of the forums, and have really been pleased at how well everyone is at helping out when asked. Ive muddled my way through the learning curve quite well, thanks to ChatGPT and Gemini, so I haven't needed to ask anything yet, but its nice to know there's years of experience and knowledge here that is willing to help out.
One thing I'm curious about, though, is what the mix of creators to players is. That is, how many spend their time building routes vs actually running them? At first I was just a player, not really interested in the building aspect, but that is quickly changing and now Im finding myself constantly working on my railroad and adding or changing things all the time. Kind of like the real railroad hobby i guess- about 90% building and 10% running.
 
Trnman said:
Im finding myself constantly working on my railroad and adding or changing things all the time. Kind of like the real railroad hobby i guess- about 90% building and 10% running.
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I am much the same. My current project started back in Trainz version 2004 and is now on its 3rd major upgrade to TRS22/Trainz Plus standard.
 
pware said:
I am much the same. My current project started back in Trainz version 2004 and is now on its 3rd major upgrade to TRS22/Trainz Plus standard.
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My large route is the same age and still runs well. It's been few the wringer a few times with various updates, service packs, and updates and it has held up well overall. At one point I thought I lost the route due to one of my mishaps. I deleted a bunch of pines in the process of thinning out trees in another section and ended up denuding the mountains of every pine on them. With my large route, I was devastated when I discovered this error many months and versions later. At the time I was going to throw it away and then I found a piece I could patch in from a backup and that fixed the old bird and got her flying again.

Trnman said:
One thing I'm curious about, though, is what the mix of creators to players is. That is, how many spend their time building routes vs actually running them? At first I was just a player, not really interested in the building aspect, but that is quickly changing and now Im finding myself constantly working on my railroad and adding or changing things all the time. Kind of like the real railroad hobby i guess- about 90% building and 10% running.
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I was always interested in building. My goal right from the beginning was to build a railroad based on a model railroad theme that I started twice and ended up scrapping due to various reasons. With unlimited space, I built my first route based on what the railroad would've been like if it was built in the real world. The route started as 6 baseboards and expanded from there into nearly a 200-mile empire based around a short line that ended up becoming a designated operator after taking over operations of a defunct branch.

I became an operator once the route grew big enough to drive and like you, the ratio is about 90% building and 10% running. What happens is I'll start driving and find something I'd like to fix or update and the next thing you know, I'm out in Surveyor adding in a siding or updating an industrial area or doing something else with the route. That simple fix turns into a multi-hour/multiday binge of building, fixing, and updating before I drive again. The process has been like this since January 2004 when I started my route.

Over the years, I've referred to Trainz as a gigantic model railroad in a virtual basement.
 
JCitron said:
Giving up is for wusses.

The usual culprit is heat.
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Wusses? Making a statement like that is for bigots and narcissists. The usual culprit is heat? The usual culprit is arrogance and ignorance of the issue. In the 21st Century almost everything is vastly more complex than a simple analysis.

I am saddened whenever I see anyone giving up because of modern complexity. Everything in this world that is touched by Humanity is arbitrary and almost universally skewed toward those of privilege who already have access to abundance and plenty beyond the average person's comprehension. Not all Human Beings are fortunate enough to have won the genetic lottery. Those fortunate enough to excel in a specific endeavor that enriches him or her beyond all expectation is great for that individual. But what of all the souls that assist them on their journey to untold wealth and privilege! No man or woman is an island. We are all in this together. Thinking and believing otherwise is a fallacy of Biblical Proportions that explains the chaos in this beautiful World we have all been given equally and without prejudice.

I have been involved with computers for over half a century. While computing gave me a career that saved my life, it also nearly destroyed me. Does that make me a Wuss?

All due respect JCitron, and I do apologize for this rant, to you and to the community at large, I empathize with the original creator of this Thread and I am greatly saddened to see anyone leave the Hobby and Trainz simply because of the complexity and nature of technology and how computers are priced and how Trainz is implemented. Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest, and that is a failure of the system "Civilization" has constructed, not the humanity of the individual.
 
RidderDansk said:
Wusses? Making a statement like that is for bigots and narcissists. The usual culprit is heat? The usual culprit is arrogance and ignorance of the issue. In the 21st Century almost everything is vastly more complex than a simple analysis.

I am saddened whenever I see anyone giving up because of modern complexity. Everything in this world that is touched by Humanity is arbitrary and almost universally skewed toward those of privilege who already have access to abundance and plenty beyond the average person's comprehension. Not all Human Beings are fortunate enough to have won the genetic lottery. Those fortunate enough to excel in a specific endeavor that enriches him or her beyond all expectation is great for that individual. But what of all the souls that assist them on their journey to untold wealth and privilege! No man or woman is an island. We are all in this together. Thinking and believing otherwise is a fallacy of Biblical Proportions that explains the chaos in this beautiful World we have all been given equally and without prejudice.

I have been involved with computers for over half a century. While computing gave me a career that saved my life, it also nearly destroyed me. Does that make me a Wuss?

All due respect JCitron, and I do apologize for this rant, to you and to the community at large, I empathize with the original creator of this Thread and I am greatly saddened to see anyone leave the Hobby and Trainz simply because of the complexity and nature of technology and how computers are priced and how Trainz is implemented. Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest, and that is a failure of the system "Civilization" has constructed, not the humanity of the individual.
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I think JCitron wrote it as a joke. He's a great bloke and helps loads of people online, so please calm down! Anyway, reading these other posts, I take it the original poster has had computer issues and previously people have tried to help?

To the original poster, just what is the specifications of your new laptop? we need to know the processor it uses, graphics card, if it has one, and memory and hard drive space it has free. As a community, I'm sure someone can help?
 
CaptEngland said:
I think JCitron wrote it as a joke. He's a great bloke and helps loads of people online, so please calm down! Anyway, reading these other posts, I take it the original poster has had computer issues and previously people have tried to help?

To the original poster, just what is the specifications of your new laptop? we need to know the processor it uses, graphics card, if it has one, and memory and hard drive space it has free. As a community, I'm sure someone can help?
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Yes, the serious me was kidding. :)

I agree more details are helpful than "it's broke" or "it doesn't work" go a long way to sorting out the problem.
 
afe_uy said:
And after all this, we still don't know what specs the kid's computer has ... which is where he should have started.
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Regardless, it appears someone went and purchased a new computer only to discover it, too, is underpowered for Trainz. As I stated previously, not everyone has won the genetic lottery and is fortunate enough to be able to afford the latest and greatest in computing power. I, myself, am saving for the best computer I have ever purchased, and I have always been one to have a computer with more horsepower than anyone I know, and still, there are aspects about Trainz that leave me wondering will enough ever be enough with these people, and the answer is always a definitive no. So why not simply state the minimum system requirement as a mainframe quantum computer and leave it at that. As I stated a year or two ago, if everyone is so intent on creating reality in a virtual environment, it would be far less grief to simply get up from the computer and walk outside where it is far more beautiful and healthier out there and infinitely less expensive and environmentally friendly and sustainable.

As to "where he (or she) should have started"... I can understand being a New Member having a bad experience and being upset.
 
RidderDansk said:
Regardless, it appears someone went and purchased a new computer only to discover it, too, is underpowered for Trainz. As I stated previously, not everyone has won the genetic lottery and is fortunate enough to be able to afford the latest and greatest in computing power. I, myself, am saving for the best computer I have ever purchased, and I have always been one to have a computer with more horsepower than anyone I know, and still, there are aspects about Trainz that leave me wondering will enough ever be enough with these people, and the answer is always a definitive no. So why not simply state the minimum system requirement as a mainframe quantum computer and leave it at that. As I stated a year or two ago, if everyone is so intent on creating reality in a virtual environment, it would be far less grief to simply get up from the computer and walk outside where it is far more beautiful and healthier out there and infinitely less expensive and environmentally friendly and sustainable.

As to "where he (or she) should have started"... I can understand being a New Member having a bad experience and being upset.
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Trouble is Middleton for laptops will run on a fairly low end laptop so how do you define minimum? Remember much of the content is end user created so some will kill any machine but others will run fine.

Cheerio John
 
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