How to i make accurate cliffs running right next to tracks?

[jadebullet]

I am currently trying to create a scene where an engine is running on tracks and one one side is a steep ravine and on the other was a locomotive tall cliff where the tracks were cut into the mountain. This is Appilacian mountains not the Rockys btw. thanks.

 

[Dermmy]

You can get a steep cliffside parallel to the track only if the track lies straight along the line of the terrain grid. If the grid is crossed at an angle the steepness of the 'cliffside' is lost.

Two solutions are (a) use 'cliff' splines or (b) wait for TRS09 where the 5 meter grid should ease the problem somewhat....

Andy

 

[jadebullet]

where can i find cliff splines? i searched the DLS for them but i cant find them.

 

[seeseeme]

I am currently trying to create a scene where an engine is running on tracks and one one side is a steep ravine and on the other was a locomotive tall cliff where the tracks were cut into the mountain. This is Appilacian mountains not the Rockys btw. thanks.

Hi, you will find this is not the easiest thing to do due the the "baseboard" size, and the way the "smooth" function work but this may help you.

If you lay one track the way you want on the baseboard, then another track (with a number of spline points) next to it (make sure they do not join up by holding down the "shift" key), then lay a third track on the other side of your main track the same way.

Now you have 3 tracks close to each other, so use the spline height thing in Surveyor and give one track a height of -10m's to each spline point. Next on the next track set the spline points to a height of 10m. Now carefully use the smooth function on the two tracks, one track will go up and the other down leaving your main track in the center. You will have to "play" around with this by moving the tracks a bit more apart to get the effect you want but it is the only way I know of and have used in the past reasonable well.

Hope this helps and I have explained it well enough :hehe: ,

Craig

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

where can i find cliff splines? i searched the DLS for them but i cant find them.

Sirgibby (Trainzone.com ?) made thousands of them but they are mostly payware I think.

If there are DLS cliffs and nobody else has replied by the time i get home tonight, I'll have a look in my collection and post back here for you.

 

[Captain_Collins]

I believe that the authors of one of the built-in routes, highland valley industries, made a cliff-hanging track by creating the cliff and then placing a track with an embankment on the side of the cliff, thus allowing it to be curved.

 

[Zwabberaar]

There are some very nice "rock faces" made available by haegarle here on the DLS =

kuid:136383

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Found some on the DLS. 10 cliff splines by author haegarle .

136383:3500 
136383:3501 
136383:3508 
136383:3510 
136383:3511 
136383:3520 
136383:3521 
136383:3522 
136383:3523 
136383:3524

D'oh...just saw Zwab's post sneak in there!

 

[S301]

http://www.victrainz.com.au/s301/beta_files/victrainz_cliff_set.zip

There's also that lot

I should probably upload them to the DLS now too...

Made by boobless_Ed, but being released by 'VicTrainz' with his permission. Will come up as 'cliff' in surveyor

Zec

 

[HiBaller]

The DHR group is planning on letting our creators put their content on the DLS very soon. You might have noticed that most of our tracks and roads are cliff-hanging themselves. The cliff and the track/road are integral to each other. All you have to do is make sure the terrain doesn't protrude through the cliff and your good to go.

All of the track/road splines were made by Narrowgauge so if you ask this question of him in our forum you'll probably get an answer.

Bill

 

[Boobless_ed]

http://www.victrainz.com.au/s301/beta_files/victrainz_cliff_set.zip

There's also that lot

I should probably upload them to the DLS now too...

Made by boobless_Ed, but being released by 'VicTrainz' with his permission. Will come up as 'cliff' in surveyor

Zec

Yup, you darn well should upload them

They sure aren't perfect, but if anyone does want to use them, the sooner the better. Cheers for your help Zec, it's hard to do much in the Trainz world when you're ten thousand miles away!

 

[jadebullet]

hey thanks. these are great. Dont worry i will be posting the scene that I am making eventually when it is done. It is based off of an old O. Winston Link photograph. so far everything is going pretty well.