How many people can not run Trainz on their laptop ?
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shaneturner12
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I wouldn't say a super computer is needed, but it does need to be fairly powerful. This is because Trainz is mainly processor-oriented, and has to handle a large amount of calculations every second in the game. In addition to this, the graphics card also has to handle a lot of information being sent to the monitor.
Consoles on the other hand usually work differently anyway due to their compact nature.
What I will say though is that older integrated graphics chips like older Intel Express chips, will not handle Trainz properly at all.
Shane
Consoles on the other hand usually work differently anyway due to their compact nature.
What I will say though is that older integrated graphics chips like older Intel Express chips, will not handle Trainz properly at all.
Shane
johnwhelan
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Essentially the problem is the content and how it is placed. The plus side of user created content is that you get a lot of variety, the downside is some isn't as efficient as it could be. If its created on a high end machine and it works fine then the content creator is happy. If you have a lower end machine you're not so happy.
Each asset has a roughly 500 poly equivalent overhead associated with it so if your layout designer uses lots of small signs at the station with the name on then stations need a lot more computer power to give the same frame rate. A game that is professionally designed each screen will have a poly budget and the station will have the sign as textures on a larger asset.
Pick your content carefully and repeat the same wagon or carriage then Trainz can run on a lower end machine especially if you adjust the performance sliders. Use content created in sketchup and smaller assets and not even a super computer will give decent frame rates.
Consoles have the advantage of being a controlled environment, each PC is slightly different, there are advantages and disadvantages to each approach the PC is more flexible and can run a wider range of software such as Blender to create content. TS2009 dose use the GPU rather more than earlier versions and the on board GPUs aren't as powerful as the stand alone cards. In general laps tops use more expensive components that are designed to conserve battery life not for performance. People do run Trainz on them but it isn't recommended, a desktop PC with a separate video card is.
Cheerio John
Each asset has a roughly 500 poly equivalent overhead associated with it so if your layout designer uses lots of small signs at the station with the name on then stations need a lot more computer power to give the same frame rate. A game that is professionally designed each screen will have a poly budget and the station will have the sign as textures on a larger asset.
Pick your content carefully and repeat the same wagon or carriage then Trainz can run on a lower end machine especially if you adjust the performance sliders. Use content created in sketchup and smaller assets and not even a super computer will give decent frame rates.
Consoles have the advantage of being a controlled environment, each PC is slightly different, there are advantages and disadvantages to each approach the PC is more flexible and can run a wider range of software such as Blender to create content. TS2009 dose use the GPU rather more than earlier versions and the on board GPUs aren't as powerful as the stand alone cards. In general laps tops use more expensive components that are designed to conserve battery life not for performance. People do run Trainz on them but it isn't recommended, a desktop PC with a separate video card is.
Cheerio John
that just about answers your own question.
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those supposedly superior (realistic) games don't allow you to go anywhere or see anything the designer doesn't want. Many of their super graphics are pre-baked, much like those old western towns or Hollywood sets with their false fronts. Go behind the scenes and you see it is all fake.
it has never been a secret, being mentioned innumerable times it these very forums.
see previous
view distance as well as other quality settings are user selectable.
Sounds like someone who wants to join the Indy500 with the family flivver and then complains he can't keep up. :hehe:
Trainz will not run on my laptop, a Dell 286 20mz with a B&W screen, I wonder why?I guess ignorance is bliss! I bought a laptop, then looked at trainz, ordered it, and everything works fine! I have a Toshiba Satellite L675, triple core AMD, Win 7 home premium. I'm happy with it all. The laptop does pour out some heat though!!! But I've monitored the temp and it only gets a little over 50%. Just wish I had the real temp!!!
ccowan2126
Member
I have a Dell 1545 purchased in '09 with Pentium T4200 @ 2.2ghz. with 2 gigs of RAM and integrated graphics. I run TS2009 and TS2010 fairly well. I am looking to purchase a desktop as soon as I sell one of my cars and cannot wait to see the difference!
I do have an Alienware M17x which runs Trainz TS12 very well. It does get very, very hot though and will not run on battery if I'm using Trainz. There's a BIOS warning regarding using intense graphics and processing and being on battery. This laptop, by the way, is built for gaming and comes with a discrete video card which is suited for game playing. This is a lot different than most laptops which use nothing more than a chip on the motherboard and share the RAM with the rest of the system.
John
John
Doesn't take a super computer at all to run Trainz, it just takes a computer that is capable of running games like train sims, flight sims, and a host of other games that require a fast processor and a good GPU . My PC brand new is about $600 total, a desktop, and I get around 60-75 FPS most of the time. Laptops generally don't have the GPU that is needed to run a game, unless you get one deisgned for gaming. You want to run games on a laptop, it is going to cost you alot more than you would spend on a desktop, to get good performance. Here are some good laptops to consider. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2020688,00.asp
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That is a good laptop for gaming, but but is not cheap. I think some folks think they can buy an $900 laptop at Best Buys and run games on it, and that isn't going to work.
Grow up!!!!!!
johnwhelan
Well-known member
The instruction set differs for a start. The big problem for cpus is getting the data into the cpu and back out to memory so memory cache and caching algorithms (ie software) play a big part in overall performance. Other things such as the number of cores, availability of hyperthreading and other things come into play as well.
Cheerio John
$900 should buy you a fairly capable machine at Best Buy. The Sony I got about a year ago for $950 had a 2.3GHz Core i5, 4GB RAM, and 512MB Radeon graphics. It runs TS12 decently.
Curtis
steamrodder
Fellow Trainzer
Since I can't afford to buy a new one, I just update my hardware when the time comes. To be able to run TS12, I replaced the MoBo along with a new cpu (AMD Athlon II X2 250 Processor, can update to a quad core when funds permit,) with 4 gigs of DDR2 ram, Nvidia GeForce 9500 GT Graphics card. all together this little upgrade only cost me $230.00 (MoBo, CPU, and Ram) to do. so far TS12 is running petty well for me. -Robert-
P.S. My old computer is a Desktop.
P.S. My old computer is a Desktop.
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