How big is your DLS?

BruceFreeland

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Will the real Download Station stand up, please?

I happen to run TRS2004, TRS2006 and now TRS2009 and have found a rather large discrepancy between the Download Station provided for TRS2004 and that provided to Content Manager Plus and to CM2.

I just did a little comparison based on installed date and this is what I got (specifying items for all Trainz versions from Trainz through TRS2009):

·[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]CM2 (TRS2009): 124,287 items total. Most recent is dated Jan 14, 2009; oldest* is dated Jul 31, 2002 (* There are two items that show an installed date of Sep 27, 2001.)

·[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]CM+ (TRS2006): 115,976 items total. Most recent is dated Jan 14, 2009; oldest* is dated Aug 12, 2002

·[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]DLS (TRS2004): 64,377 items total (adding up the total items shown in each category). Most recent is dated Jan 16, 2009; oldest depends on category (Loco’s, Bogies, Rolling Stock, Routes, and Buildings date back to 2002; Scenarios Scenery, Track Objects, and Misc date back just short of two years…I checked over a couple of days and the cutoff point moves along two years prior to the current date).

Why is the TRS2004 Download Station short some 60,000 items? Why is there a difference between the CM+ (TRS2006) and CM2 (TRS2009) databases?


How big is YOUR DLS?
 
For me I have TRS2004, TRS2006, and TC 1. Not sure how many is in TRS2004, but I know there's about 95,000 in TC, and 120,000 in TRS2006 since I play it the most. :D

Robby
 
The answer is quite simple really, people with 2006 can download all the stuff made for 2004 & 2006, but people with 2004 can only download stuff made for 2004, hence they can't download as many items. :)
 
I think it's a bigger problem than that. I've done a check on the DLS for 04 and if I do a search for all categories, I only get a little over 13,000 items, but if I do a search for each category and then add them up, I get over 60,000 items. It didn't used to operate this way.
Mike
 
Very strange indeed :eek:

Going to the actual DLS via browser shows the following individual 'amounts' of available content:
Pre SP3 786
Trainz 14,490
UTC 6,292
T2004 11,881
T2006 1,584
TC 1 & 2 36
TC3 145
T2009 96

Total items 35,310

If I tick all boxes at once total only shows 14,939 items :hehe:

CMP in T2006 shows download items available 101,971
CMP in TC3 " " " " 118,487
CMP in T2009 " " " " 127,165

Now not being a mathematician or anything shouldn't the total of all the individual versions be the same as what CMP T2009 shows as available??
 
The answer is quite simple really, people with 2006 can download all the stuff made for 2004 & 2006, but people with 2004 can only download stuff made for 2004, hence they can't download as many items.

:o Backwatch, I agree up to a point, however, I can use the 2004 DLS to also download objects to 2006 because I can view objects made in all versions of Trainz. The problem is that there are only about 64,000 objects (2004, 2006, TC, etc.) listed or displayed using this means to access the DLS. If I pull up CM2 in 2009, I can see over 124,000 objects listed in the DLS database. This is a tremendous difference. It's more pronounced when you notice that the oldest objects in several categories listed with the 2004 DLS are only one year old and that the one-year cutoff keeps pace with the current date. For example, two days ago the oldest scenery object listed in the 2004 DLS was dated 22 Jan 08. Today, the oldest scenery object listed is dated 24 Jan 08. Where did those two days of scenery objects go?

Theoretically, the 2006 DLS under CM+ should be roughly equivalent to the 2009 DLS under CM2, if for no other reason than the fact that there have not been very many objects made under TC or 2009. Instead, I find a difference of some 14,000 objects in the respective databases. I'm just trying to find out why each database manager accesses some objects and not others. This appears to be another of those undocumented features we keep coming up with. :confused:
 
BruceFreeland, that is strange, I've just been to have a look & I concur with your observation about the oldest scenery object listed is dated 24 Jan 08.
I have not seen this before. :confused:

Instead of selecting "scenery" in the row of category boxes, I entered nexusdj's kuid No. into the box & selected "All", it came up with Items from as far back as Service Pack 3 & dated 2nd August 2004. Strange going on's indeed.
 
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Dear Blackwatch,

Thanks for confirming what I found. At least now I know it isn't just my PC or something that I've done. Thanks also for the additional bit of research and for coming up with a way to access the "older" DLS items ... i.e., by KUID. It shows that not all is lost ... at least not yet.

Bruce
 
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