Here we go again!? Neoclei's people on DLS. Russian user dsp_mult

J

JCitron

Trainzing since 12-2003
n_man_ment_5walk,<kuid:705786:100227>
n_womanU_1_v1,<kuid:705786:100226>
n_womanU_2_V1,<kuid:705786:100225>
n_womanU_3_v1,<kuid:705786:100224>

Shows up at Author ID dsp_mult
User KUID 705786

I would avoid anything that has his/her KUID associated with it until we can prove it's legit.

John
 
Not another one - I haven't long dealt with another Russian user causing trouble with that.

Neoclei could do with contacting the Helpdesk so the issue can be investigated at their end.

In the meantime, I'm going to check if any more assets crop up from that user.

Shane

EDIT: Interestingly, the user created their Planet Auran account at the start of August this year, and has 6 items of content listed.
 
Last edited:
I had the same problem with Pleigox3 by downloading a pass.car : 517718:100459 .Kuid 450244:50120 won't show up.Google search brought me to Trainz Up again .So i search it but unfortunalaty , nothing .
 
leksie said:
I had the same problem with Pleigox3 by downloading a pass.car : 517718:100459 .Kuid 450244:50120 won't show up.Google search brought me to Trainz Up again .So i search it but unfortunalaty , nothing .
Click to expand...

Hi Leksie,

Contact the Helpdesk and report this. This is a very, very serious problem.

@Shane - Here we go again! :(

John
 
Indeed. It appears that Russian users seem to think that copyright does not apply to them, which is incorrect as it applies worldwide.

Shane
 
Hmmm, maybe this is a good thing that I have to reinstall My Windows XP. At least My computer will be squeaky clean and don't have to worry about questionable and/or broken assets, I'll sure be more careful on what I download. I've had quite a number of assets, that I had to sort through to save and backup on CD-Rs. What a pain in the rear, but it's worth doing, for some of assets I cannot replace anymore. -Robert- :wave:
 
Shows up at Author ID dsp_mult User KUID 705786 I would avoid anything that has his/her KUID associated with it until we can prove it's legit. John[/QUOTE said:
Hi All,

It is why I have never understood why Auran then, and NV3 now doesn't protected the kuids of each product that is bought, meaning that people cannot just open your folder from their cmp+ and start grabbing stuff like a kid in a candy store because the kuids of the product MUST match that folder to open!

Auran contents is protected so why wasn't our contents set up the same way --- in this manner no one cannot get anything from a folder unless he or she gets in contact with the original creator, and he or she would then send the mesh or folders, if choose to!

Just my 2 cents!

Ish
Click to expand...
 
ish6 - if all assets were locked it would mean those people who like to legitimatly reskin a model for there own use or want to change a hornsound, an interior, bogies, enginespec, etc or fix errors that are thrown up by newer versions would not be allowed to do so and we would have to wait for updates from the original creator always assuming that he wanted to make the modifications. This I am sure would lead to a lot more dissatisfied users for whom making changes for their own use is a large part of the enjoyment of Trainz.

All that having been said I do agree that there is a need to somehow stop the few who are cloning, and re uploading assets as there own without any regard for the copyright of the original author.
 
I agree with dnevans8 about not locking the kuids to any/all edits. Almost all assets I download receive some sort of modification, usually to the Username and Queues (loads) in the Config file. This is critical in finding assets (there is no naming standard to help sort assets in Trainz) and many of the loads are just crap for the type of railcar to which they are assigned. I think locking assets to all edits would kill Trainz. I have gotten a very few assets in 2006 that were locked but I never used them (too hard to find) and most I deleted. I think it is up to the creator to challenge a "stolen" copyright. They should contact the Helpdesk with their evidence that it is their stuff and N3V should lock/remove the asset from DL until it gets resolved. I think editing content for one's personal use is wide spread but few share or redistribute tis content, especially where it is available for DL to everyone.
 
Multiplayer again? Scrap that or restrict to original builtin assets only and I suspect most of the problem goes away.
 
dnevans8 said:
ish6 - if all assets were locked it would mean those people who like to legitimatly reskin a model for there own use or want to change a hornsound, an interior, bogies, enginespec, etc or fix errors that are thrown up by newer versions would not be allowed to do so and we would have to wait for updates from the original creator always assuming that he wanted to make the modifications. This I am sure would lead to a lot more dissatisfied users for whom making changes for their own use is a large part of the enjoyment of Trainz.

All that having been said I do agree that there is a need to somehow stop the few who are cloning, and re uploading assets as there own without any regard for the copyright of the original author.
Click to expand...


Hi,

You have a valid point there, etc ...

So I guess then we need to come back to N3V -- anyone caught uploading contents that it is clearly not there's, and have not gotten permission from the original author should be banned from uploading for a month - Second offend lifetime banned!

Ish
 
If they have a mac version, and a PC version as well, the content lockings don't work on a mac. So anyone can open anything for edit.
 
boyerm25 said:
If they have a mac version, and a PC version as well, the content lockings don't work on a mac. So anyone can open anything for edit.
Click to expand...

Yes the content will still be locked. This is done by the creator of the asset by adding in a specific tag-block in the config.txt file. Once that line is added, the asset cannot be opened for edit or even cloned.

privileges
{
permit-commit 1
permit-edit 0
permit-listing 1
}

John
 
It can on a mac. Something about the mac content manager bypasses the lock so I can open built-ins and JR payware for edit.
 
Thinking out loud here. Would it be technically possible for a computer program to use the data that describes a 3D mesh to generate a unique character sequence for that mesh? If so, could that be used as a basis for automatically checking whether a mesh is a copy of a previously uploaded mesh? If it is, but the author is different, then it could flag a warning of possible copyright infringement.

An e-mail could then be auto-sent to the person wanting to upload the copy, placing the burden on them to show proof that they have permission of the original creator, otherwise the copy does not go on the DLS.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

T
Mchawkman assets SSW B-70-63 skins & XBG SSW B-70-63 v1 box car on the DLS 18Aug14
Replies
1
Views
2K
mtldrm38
M
J
I received an award today at work for excellent user support.
Replies
18
Views
3K
JimDep
J
E
In the Matter of Payment on a Debt
Replies
0
Views
274
Euphod
E
Back
Top