Help needed

[Electro]

HI all

I have been working on parts of my South Australian map for the last 2 days with no problems,

But to day when i went in to ad new content i have made i notice that all the invisible tracks

that i have used to cross some of my bridge's can NOT be moved or deleted

Even the track's that lead to and off the bridge all so can NOT be removed or Deleted






I am useing TS12 build 49922, i do have TS build 61388 installed BUT for some unknown reason the updated build run's slower.

Any help would be most helpfull.



Poul

 

[BLACKWATCH]

Check to make sure you are in the correct 'Layer'.

 

[pware]

and that the layers have been unlocked.

 

[Electro]

Hi Guy's

Thanks for the reply

There are no Layer's in this Route,

The reason for this is when i first started this route with Layers for Track's, Road's, Building's, Farming, Tree's and so on I had the same problem

I have opened anther Route which i have been working on over the last 10 Years and it all so has been screwed up with the same fault

again thanks for the help



Poul

 

[JCitron]

Hi Poul,

Check in content manager that the asset didn't become faulty or open for edit. That can surely cause things like track to disappear or become the two dashed white lines.

Good luck,

John

 

[patchy]

By any strange chance is there a consist near the problem, that will cause the problem

Cheers,
Patchy

 

[Electro]

Hi John

RE : Check in content manager that the asset didn't become faulty or open for edit. That can surely cause things like track to disappear or become the two dashed white lines.

All but 2 asset's are error and fault free so far

warning's are

Warning: This asset uses an obsolete trainz-build number. Trainz-build numbers below 2.7 are no longer supported.
Warning: Required tag 'trackdirections' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required container 'thumbnails' is missing.
Warning: Missing or invalid selection for tag 'category-region' in 'bridge'.

these are easy fixed but as i am allways told warning's will not stop the asset from working so i have left them as is.


Hi Patchy

RE : By any strange chance is there a consist near the problem, that will cause the problem.

There are no Loco's or rolling stock on either maps that have this fault.


I have looked at 2 other of my maps on my main gameing rig and they do not have this fault that i can find.



Poul

 

[j_maybury]

The only thing I can think of are invisible configs that don't show up in the screen shot but should show up in the map screen, but if you have never put a single config on your map at any time then it's a waist of time looking, but if you find that you have, the best way to get rid of them is to put a loco at one end of the line and put another loco at the other end of where you think the invisible configs are. Then drag one of the locos down to the other and if there are any you should see the two locos running together with a gap in the middle, now if you go in to train mode instead of individual vehicles mode you can delete the whole config in one go invisibles and all.
The only other thing is to make sure the layer lock is off, even though you have no layers there is still a lock on the map it's self.

 

[j_maybury]

Paul, I have just thought of another way, and that is to put extra spline points between the parts you want to delete , and then delete the parts ether side of the spline point that won't delete, and that should do it.

 

[Electro]

hi Jonathan

Sorry none of what you have posted did any good


Still trying to work on how to fix.

Thanks to all that has replied so far


Poul

 

[j_maybury]

Paul, have you tried to break the spline's apart, then try to remove them?
Or if you have a session layer, try merging the session layer with the map, then have a go at deleting it.
If they don't work, then I'm totally stumped as for what it could be that is causing it.

 

[clam1952]

Try the other tabs to delete, there have been cases of splines changing into assets and track and other strange goings on. If that fails and you can select the spline but it won't move, try this? Create a new layer, I called it delete, use the question mark on the spline and change the layer to the new "delete" layer and then delete that layer, that worked for me. Curiously not had any problems since.

 

[j_maybury]

Try the other tabs to delete, there have been cases of splines changing into assets and track and other strange goings on. If that fails and you can select the spline but it won't move, try this? Create a new layer, I called it delete, use the question mark on the spline and change the layer to the new "delete" layer and then delete that layer, that worked for me. Curiously not had any problems since.

Wow Malc, that's a good one, I totally forgot that you could change items in to different layers with the question mark button, I will have to remember that for myself in the future.☺☺☺

 

[mezzoprezzo]

Possible cause/solution

Have any of your bridge, or rail, spline points been raised to 10m or more, relative to the surrounding terrain height?

Doing this on some spline assets will render some functions, e.g. deleting, moving etc., completely useless.

The remedy is to lower the spline assets to less than 10m to make your adjustments, and then re-raise them to the required height.

 

[Electro]

Hi All


Thanks to all that have responded to this thread Good to see people willing to help out as much as Possible.

Just a quick update

Up till an hour ago no way to solve the problem

So to solve the problem Trainz deleted from HD Problem solved.


As to some nice emails saying that N3V Game is NOT full of bugs and error's it can not be thier fault

it is all mine and the way i have my gaming rig setup uninstalling trainz solved the problem.


Thanks again for all the Help in this thread.


Poul

PS.

Mods Can this thread please be locked as it will never be resolved. Thanks.

 

[H222]

Surely that's tad extreme... It's only been 12 years Poul, is this the end of the road?

 

[clam1952]

Likewise I'm hoping I have misunderstood what Electro has posted.

 

[JCitron]

I sense a bit of frustration...

I've locked the thread at his request.

John