Hello again

[greywolfretired]

Well in Oct.09 I took a break from trs and now I hear there is a 2010 version which is quoted as being the best yet. Perhaps one of the veterean trainzers can bring me up to date. HAve they done anything with the content manager and the way downloaded items were randomly scattered while in surveyor.
You had to search forever to find something and a lot were not in english making it harder to find the tree you were looking for
Those were two of biggest pains in the butt for me.
Looking foward to hearing from some of you.
Have a great day, the old greywolf may howl again!!

 

[seeseeme]

Hi Larry,

Nice to see you dropping in and saying "Hi". I can not help with 2010 as my Disk 1 had a problem and I am waiting for a replacement. Not to sure about the search features either, I have not read that much about that.

Though as you say, there are some positive feedbacks about 2010 so that is very good news.

Hope to see you around more,

Craig

 

[Smileyman]

Good to see you back mate.

I was gone quite a long time myself.

TS2010 is a big improvement for me because I didn't touch TS2009 or 2 of the 3 classics.
CMP seems to be stable, at last, and there are a lot of improvements in Surveyor.

Unfortunately, the Auran staff still seem to be absent from the forums unless there's an imminent release, so there's no change there since this regime took over.

Even if you don't use the advanced features of TS2010, it's still a good version to have.

Smiley.

 

[rweber95]

Welcome back,
The Content Manager for TS2010 is funtionally like TS2009 with the same content filter in Surveyor. 2009 had 12885 buildin assets, 2010 has 19006. A proportional number are non-English just as in 2009. 2010's CMPv3.2 seems the most stable yet and locks-up less. I personally think it is the best Trainz yet, however, YMMV.

Bob

 

[crohakon]

There is no organization of assets. Only a search feature. It is... okay.. but considering that the names of content are not always that descriptive it is still a pain. I really wish they would add a few different field in their database tables so that the items could be listed by what they are.

In other words.. yes, you still have to spend HOURS going through the list of stuff to find what you are looking to use.

 

[greywolfretired]

So I'm thinking the best way is to spend hours going through the assets,then can you put them onto a board and use that as your database of items needed to build a route. -someone out there should be able to come up with some kind of program to sort out the assets mess. I thought Craig had one at one time.You would need to attach your asset board to the route your building so you could get your trees ect.
Hmmmm! food for thought

 

[seeseeme]

So I'm thinking the best way is to spend hours going through the assets,then can you put them onto a board and use that as your database of items needed to build a route. -someone out there should be able to come up with some kind of program to sort out the assets mess. I thought Craig had one at one time.You would need to attach your asset board to the route your building so you could get your trees ect.
Hmmmm! food for thought

Even in 2004 I am making up Scratchboards (as I call them). I am doing that now for a particular layout idea. You know you have something but can not remember what it is stored under (in 2004) so you start searching everywhere for it, well this is one way to sort things out.

At the moment I have a Commercial, Industrial, Texture and now a Trackside scratchboard. It is also a good idea to test out combinations of content together and how it may actually work without stuffing around with the actual layout. This is particularly so with Textures and some foliage. Once you have them, then as you say Larry just add them to your layout and copy over the ideas etc and remove the baseboards once your finished. You can use these over and over depending on the theme/year of your layout.

Another scratchboard I have is for how to have a actual Subway and the tunnels, in particular to suit the Aussie Rolling Stock I am using. Once I worked out which tunnels of Andi's (Andi06) to use, I then needed to work out how to put in the overhead power lines and which ones to use. Now that I have done this, I can attach the scratchboard to the layout and easily find the actual content I need.

Craig

 

[Paulsw2]

How about using Keywords? I'm pleased that TS10 has reinstated backup and import of Keywords so that you can properly save them.

The other interesting feature is that you can use the Picklist from CMP in Surveyor - so you identify assets you want to use for a particular purpose (for example a railyard) in CMP, place them in the picklist and then they're there in Surveyor for you to place on the baseboard.

TS10 is really good. As the owner of an ATI card in my PC, I've got issues with TS10, but you can still 'feel' the quality.

Paul

 

[j_maybury]

I've found it best to use bookmarks in conjunction with baseboards, you can have up to nine separate areas for differing objects, and leave the last one for the area in which you are working.
That way you can have the boards well away from the mapping area, and then with one click of the button you can be at any given point. ........it works well for me.

 

[greywolfretired]

The picklist sounds like a good plan, is there one in trs 09 as I have not purchased 10 yet(still undecided) I wonder if some talented person is going to come up with a separate piece of software for saving only the assets you want and use it in surveyor

 

[EdrickV]

TS2009 has the Pick List in both Trainz itself and CMP. Personally I like the idea of keywords. I save the Pick List for things I use a lot. (switch levers, signals, track, and similar stuff that I get a lot of use out of.) Keywords could be setup to act as a virtual scratchboard, the difference is that you can only add/remove things from it in CMP. However if you added an item to a route/session or to the Pick List you can easily set a keyword for it in CMP. A nice thing about setting up keywords is that they are global and not part of a route or session, that means you can use them with multiple routes/sessions. If the a keyword is specific enough, you can search for it without having to specifically use the keyword filter.

By viewing dependencies and then clicking View in Main List you can easily setup keywords for all the items you used in a particular route or session, or even multiple routes or sessions.