Hi, I have looked all over my cmp for an easy to reskin locomotive to carry a lot of coal (in upwards of 12,000t) at a minimum speed of 50mph, because many of our locomotives are either in use or being repaired in our engine shops (our locomotives aren't in the best condition). So if anyone knows of an american steam locomotive that can meet this criteria, please respond.
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Bendorsey, thank you for your suggestions, but I am looking for freeware(sorry, I would buy payware, but I'm only a kid). I would also love to use Ben Neal's 2-8-8-2, but it can't go anyware near that fast (a max speed of around 30, with no load!). I also don't think it would be economical to have 4 pacifics or 2 to 3 2-8-2's pulling that much coal.
cascaderailroad
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Most modern trains have a maximum weight limit of @ 14,000 tons. Trains any longer, require mid train DPU, and can bust knuckes, pull out drawbars, and derail, as trainhandling and slack action of super long trains is most difficult.
In the prototype at least 2 big boys would be needed on the head end and possibly 1 or 2 more shoving on the rear, unless it was a relitively flat gradient. Steam loco's were built for speed, and lacked tractive effort vs diesels which were for powerful pulling.
Three or four SD45's on the head end, and 2 more shoving wold be prototypical.
A 125 car train is @ 14,000 tons
In the prototype at least 2 big boys would be needed on the head end and possibly 1 or 2 more shoving on the rear, unless it was a relitively flat gradient. Steam loco's were built for speed, and lacked tractive effort vs diesels which were for powerful pulling.
Three or four SD45's on the head end, and 2 more shoving wold be prototypical.
A 125 car train is @ 14,000 tons
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Ben's 2-8-8-2, The built-in Big Boy, or possibly one or two of Ben's USRA light 2-10-2s. I also wouldn't rule out three or four of Ben's SD-9s. I hear the undecorated one is easy to reskin and has parts built in to customize it (i'm just to lazy to reskin it myself).
Actually, scratch the 2-10-2. I Remember now that i tried it out on and i could get about a thousand tons out of it on a 1 percent grade and about 1800 on level track. Two of them could probably get about two-three thousand tons but not 12 thousand.
Actually, scratch the 2-10-2. I Remember now that i tried it out on and i could get about a thousand tons out of it on a 1 percent grade and about 1800 on level track. Two of them could probably get about two-three thousand tons but not 12 thousand.
Sawyer811, Now I feel like an idiot! I have the 2-8-8-2(which I did customize for the SH & EC RR, but then I deleted that version), I also have Ben's SD7/9 customized to the needs of the railroad, but we only have one, and it was made for logging jobs on the mountain( I was also too lazy to reskin it in paint (it's the only program I can use) so I just patched another template).
ShadyCadence
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jmeinig-have you looked into GIMP? It's free, and much more versatile than paint.
Back closer to the topic, anyone ever built any Mallet's?
Back closer to the topic, anyone ever built any Mallet's?
Yes shadycadence, you can find a freeware one right here: http://steammachine.com/bdaneal/index.htm
I know, I begged my dad to let me buy it, but he said no.
Hi Whitepass:
The VGN 2-10-10-2 comes to mind for slow haulerrs. 6 ft dia low pressure cylinders and all that weight in reciprocating motion limited it to around 10 mph I believe. The philosophy back then wasn't speed. It was as many cars as possible with a single loco.
Ben
The VGN 2-10-10-2 comes to mind for slow haulerrs. 6 ft dia low pressure cylinders and all that weight in reciprocating motion limited it to around 10 mph I believe. The philosophy back then wasn't speed. It was as many cars as possible with a single loco.
Ben
Something to do which will give an idea into the several factors affecting speeds of large freight steam engines, is ask your dad to spring for the $6 to get the Fall 2010 issue of Trains magazine's quarterly Classic Trains.
Has an article on development of 2-10-4 types with several things to note.
Also, this to note from bottom of page 27,
Another thing to keep in mind is the issue real RRs would have with the stopping distance of that much mass moving with that much momentum.
Gotta be able to stop in a reasonable distance when encountering a restrictive signal; and half the distance from LA to Keokuk is probably a bit too long.
Has an article on development of 2-10-4 types with several things to note.
Also, this to note from bottom of page 27,
Another thing to keep in mind is the issue real RRs would have with the stopping distance of that much mass moving with that much momentum.
Gotta be able to stop in a reasonable distance when encountering a restrictive signal; and half the distance from LA to Keokuk is probably a bit too long.
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