amigacooke
Well-known member
I agree that it is a virtue for Trainz to be distributed by Auran without DRM and I would not want it to be added in the future.
Have You seen this
- Thread starter robin_hoods
- Start date
:hehe: Or indeed to take the childrens' ice lollies and throw them to the ground or other terrible things as imagined by the TRS04 martyrs!
Paul (looking forward to a good clearout in September)
mezzoprezzo
Content appreciator
Health Check
The UK National Health Service do no recommend leaving it that long! Have you tried ReadyBreak or All Bran?
A couple of other facts from a caring, rather than money making organisation:
The NHS do not remove life support from healthy and stable patients.
The NHS do not discharge premature babies from Intensive care until fully fit.
The UK National Health Service do no recommend leaving it that long! Have you tried ReadyBreak or All Bran?
A couple of other facts from a caring, rather than money making organisation:
The NHS do not remove life support from healthy and stable patients.
The NHS do not discharge premature babies from Intensive care until fully fit.
amigacooke
Well-known member
I assume there is some form of comparison to Auran intended here.
The NHS has a £95bn budget from UK taxpayers. I imagine that if Auran had a similar sum, they might be persuaded to continue DLS support for older Trainz versions.
It seems obviously to me that healthy and stable patients do not need life support in the first place? Perhaps I'm missing something here?
If premature babies refers to TS2010 then the baby is not premature, but it is suffering from teething problems I agree.
mezzoprezzo
Content appreciator
Hi amigacooke
True, but profit making private healthcare organisations, like BUPA, manage to balance the books and keep the stakeholders happy without tax revenue.
Fair comment. It was not very well put on my part.
Let's just hope that everyone makes a full recovery.
Be happy
Cheers.
Casper
The NHS has a £95bn budget from UK taxpayers. I imagine that if Auran had a similar sum, they might be persuaded to continue DLS support for older Trainz
versions.
True, but profit making private healthcare organisations, like BUPA, manage to balance the books and keep the stakeholders happy without tax revenue.
It seems obviously to me that healthy and stable patients do not need life support in the first place? Perhaps I'm missing something here?
Fair comment. It was not very well put on my part.
If premature babies refers to TS2010 then the baby is not premature, but it is suffering from teething problems I agree.
Let's just hope that everyone makes a full recovery.
Be happy
Cheers.
Casper
By refusing* to treat illnesses/conditions that they deem too expensive.
Much like say if you were to decide that supporting trs2004 was costing you too much with little financial incentive from its users, now that 6 years has past.
Oh, wait.
* BUPA is even more selective than the US health insurers, because they know that patients have the NHS to fall back onto if they refuse to cover something - they do not cover treatment for many forms of cancer, for example. If the NHS vanished, BUPA would NOT be a sufficient stand-in.
mezzoprezzo
Content appreciator
Getting off topic as AJ says.
It was a late night and I was getting grumpy at the jibes came in.
Wrong reaction on my part!
I made the wrong decision to post the analogy, which was a pretty poor one anyway.
Right..... Back to Surveyor!
Cheers
Casper
It was a late night and I was getting grumpy at the jibes came in.
Wrong reaction on my part!
I made the wrong decision to post the analogy, which was a pretty poor one anyway.
Right..... Back to Surveyor!
Cheers
Casper
I am sorry I am glad Auran have decided to stop uploads for 2004. TC3 and 2009 is much better than 2004 in my opinion. To put it to into MS OS. TRS 2004 is Windows 95 Stable good interface but old, TRS 2006 is ME totally unstable and not worth the money, TC3 XP is good but now showing its age and then 2009 & 2010 is windows 7. XP is good but now showing its age and now time for Windows 7 to take over. Now with Auran doing some cut backs on what can be uploaded we may better service from the DLS
zatovisualworks
Veteran but blossoming
Not a fortunate comparison, dear L!:hehe: Windows XP SP3 (BTW, given updating support by the Redmont Empire daily) is the most stable version of the sweat&sour MS OS's mainly due to its well-proven healthy age.
Take care,
The ageing side of Alberte :wave:
:hehe: Windows XP SP3 (BTW, given updating support by the Redmont Empire daily) is the most stable version of the sweat&sour MS OS's mainly due to its well-proven healthy age.
Take care,
The ageing side of Alberte :wave:
I'd have gone with comparing it to 2000, sure, it was a rock solid OS in terms of stability, and at the time it was definitely the best there was. But there is also so much technology that isn't supported at all (most modern browsers won't run on it, DirectX stopped at 7.0, no USB2 support, no xFAT for new memory cards, etc etc) on 2000 that trying to use 2000 as a modern desktop is an exercise in being a luddite.
Hi Everybody.
My wife insisted I go to the NHS for treatment to my Trainz addiction. They refused point blank to do anything, only suggesting that further downloads of 1960s era steamers and diesels might alleviate the symptoms somewhat.
For a person with such suffering, I was disgusted. What is the British health system coming to.
Bill
(oops sorry Mr Fox please do not close the thread):hehe:
My wife insisted I go to the NHS for treatment to my Trainz addiction. They refused point blank to do anything, only suggesting that further downloads of 1960s era steamers and diesels might alleviate the symptoms somewhat.
For a person with such suffering, I was disgusted. What is the British health system coming to.
Bill
(oops sorry Mr Fox please do not close the thread):hehe:
Last edited:
Back on topic, when "support" for TRS2006 is withdrawn, will there be any sort of patch issued which will allow CMP to start in off-line mode, i.e. not need to talk to the Auran server if all you want to do is manage your own files?
I appreciate there are various different builds of this most popular version of the programme kicking around, but hopefully a one size fits all update to CMP ought to be possible.
I appreciate there are various different builds of this most popular version of the programme kicking around, but hopefully a one size fits all update to CMP ought to be possible.
Vern,
I have 04 and 06 installed on a computer that never sees the internet. Shouldn't be a problem using CMP at all.
I still think it is a shame they are doing this. I can understand dropping support but all this is going to do is spread content out all over the internet. It is frustrating enough hunting down a handful of assets not on the DLS now. What will it be like when it happens with more than half of everything you need for a route is elsewhere.
04 and 06 content is still useable in 09 and up. All they need to do is up the error checking on it, build number wouldn't matter. Without getting into a which is better debate some here, like myself, don't care for the new versions and went back to older ones. While I'll still maintain DLS access because I have 09 I won't be able to use CMP or Download Helper. Why? I am a loyal customer who prefers an older version to the new, simple as that. 09 has long since been removed from my system.
This move will only frustrate new users who not only have to search third party sites for content but then still have fix it. Allowing people with older versions DLS access to upload, with tighter error checking, ensures most content being made is in one place and error free. It also ensures a steady flow of new content they can put into new releases. The DLS has to be cheaper to maintain than hiring a crew to churn out new content for TS2011.
Lastly, for those happy with all this, Leeferr is right. When you're registered on twenty different sites because everyone with a repaint has his own and it still shows errors, how happy will you be? When Auran has little new to offer in the next release and everything is payware how happy will you be. Upsetting the cart sounds like fun at the time but in the end all you end up with is a big mess.
Dave........
I have 04 and 06 installed on a computer that never sees the internet. Shouldn't be a problem using CMP at all.
I still think it is a shame they are doing this. I can understand dropping support but all this is going to do is spread content out all over the internet. It is frustrating enough hunting down a handful of assets not on the DLS now. What will it be like when it happens with more than half of everything you need for a route is elsewhere.
04 and 06 content is still useable in 09 and up. All they need to do is up the error checking on it, build number wouldn't matter. Without getting into a which is better debate some here, like myself, don't care for the new versions and went back to older ones. While I'll still maintain DLS access because I have 09 I won't be able to use CMP or Download Helper. Why? I am a loyal customer who prefers an older version to the new, simple as that. 09 has long since been removed from my system.
This move will only frustrate new users who not only have to search third party sites for content but then still have fix it. Allowing people with older versions DLS access to upload, with tighter error checking, ensures most content being made is in one place and error free. It also ensures a steady flow of new content they can put into new releases. The DLS has to be cheaper to maintain than hiring a crew to churn out new content for TS2011.
Lastly, for those happy with all this, Leeferr is right. When you're registered on twenty different sites because everyone with a repaint has his own and it still shows errors, how happy will you be? When Auran has little new to offer in the next release and everything is payware how happy will you be. Upsetting the cart sounds like fun at the time but in the end all you end up with is a big mess.
Dave........
Hopefully it won't be a problem then, Dave. Today '006 wouldn't even talk to the DLS even though '10 could - maybe it's started already.
I just had to restart a route in TRS2006 because almost as soon as I started placing track in TS2010 the thing turned to a slideshow. I've tried all the suggestions, turning off AA etc. but the simple fact is my development laptop which runs away with '006 can't handle 10.
To mis-quote from Jaws, "We're going to need a bigger laptop", if I ever want to develop in 10. At the moment the best compromise will be to build 95% in 006 on the lappie then finish off on the main PC in 10.
I just had to restart a route in TRS2006 because almost as soon as I started placing track in TS2010 the thing turned to a slideshow. I've tried all the suggestions, turning off AA etc. but the simple fact is my development laptop which runs away with '006 can't handle 10.
To mis-quote from Jaws, "We're going to need a bigger laptop", if I ever want to develop in 10. At the moment the best compromise will be to build 95% in 006 on the lappie then finish off on the main PC in 10.
UnionPacificRules
NYC, PRR, UP, SP, BNSF...
OMG!!! I'll never be able to get help for my ill fated trs2006 stsrting on Sept. 2010?????
American_Connections
AC MonkeyWrench Models
The only change is that you won't have DLS access unless you buy a First Class Ticket. Helpdesk haven't given technical support for a while on 06, and we'll all still be here on the forums to assist. Or you could use the next five months to save up for TS2010.
Paul
mezzoprezzo
Content appreciator
That applies to TRS2004 & TRS2006 in September this year, and TRS2009 next year.
DLS access is not the only change. New restrictions also apply. It needs to be understood that no uploads will be permitted for those versions from those times (unless Auran have a change of plan).
That means, if you use those older versions, new assets will be denied to you, so a First Class Ticket, IMHO, won't be worth having unless you're content with only purchasing old stuff.
I won't be buying one, unless the plan is modified to allow new assets to be included in the price.
Casper
