Has anyone noticed this ?

[DaveL]

I would like to think that I'm way behind the rest of you.........

I'm really annoyed by the fact that the sound trainz makes when going over a switch is keyed to the points of the switch ,NOT to the frog which actually creates the sound you hear.
A minor thing, but how absolutely unnecessary !!

Dave


lemme count those rivets again..........

 

[Conductorphil]

Add it to the suggestion thread, maybe they'll fix it in the next update. I figure they should create a delay which checks the distance from the points when it crosses them.

 

[JCitron]

Never noticed or paid much attention to this before, now that you mention it.

Phil,

It might be difficult to adjust the timing because points are variable in Trainz. Remember the tracks are put together with splines so the points and frogs can vary between individual tracks. Your suggestion might work well with fixed track junctions though.

John

 

[overkill650]

Hey Dave, though thats a good point, and ive always noticed that, like john said, that is probally close to impossible, with fixed track, i guess it could work, but noting in the world is perfect, everyone knows that.

btw, hello john, hows it going? how has everything been? havent heard from you in a very long time. whats new with the railroads up there?

 

[JCitron]

Hey Dave, though thats a good point, and ive always noticed that, like john said, that is probally close to impossible, with fixed track, i guess it could work, but noting in the world is perfect, everyone knows that.

btw, hello john, hows it going? how has everything been? havent heard from you in a very long time. whats new with the railroads up there?

Been really busy with work, and I've been sick lately with a stomach bug, so haven't been around the forums. Just Sleeping most of the time when I get home!

Railroads are just as rusty as usual up here. Pan Am puts no effort into maintaining anything they have. They wait for the MBTA and Amtrak to do their maintenance.

 

[overkill650]

DANG!!! really? l;ol i just posted yesterday on here on what to do about the stomach bug...just had it for 2 1/2 days! im finally back to 100% now. wow, what a weird occurence!

ive been busy too. im happy i found a job. i work at enterprise rent a car as a vehicle service agent, or simply, a car prep. its fun though, i get to drive all different cars all day.

i joined a local muscle car club, and have alot of fun there. I also joined a club called NRHS of LI...ot National Railroad Historical Society of Long Island.
heres a link to their site, you should take a look, they have some pretty cool info, and they've restored some pretty old equipment.

this is the ex-LIRR RS-3. its so cool. they're trying to restore the motor to get it to run.
http://www.twinforksnrhs.org/Projects.html

other equipment they have. the flatcar is pretty cool, especially how it made it all the way over here.

http://www.twinforksnrhs.org/Our_Equipment.html

 

[JCitron]

Thanks for the links. I remember when the LIRR ran Alcos. My aunt and uncle had a summer house out in Hampton Bays. When we visited one year, we had to stop at a crossing while a freight went by. It was very short, perhaps 12 cars if that, but there was an RS3 on the front!

I've had the bug since early January and still not over it. I saw my dr. today and have to get some tests.

I'm glad you're working. No job for the railroad after all?

John

 

[overkill650]

sorry to hear about the bug. you'll pull through. what dont kill you makes ya stronger

and hell no. no way am I giving up. I may never be able to become an engineer because of my knee, but, well this is gonna sound b.s., but i seriously have known this guy spyke from xbox who lives in indiana for 3 years. we've grown to become good friends, because hes an exact cop of me...his high is anything that has to do with a motor.

his grandfather owns a company that oversees work done on CSX lines!

he said he is going to get me an interview with his grandfather the next time he is in New York.

i would love the job, as spyke told me its 6 days a week, 2 weeks at a time...like work two weeks, mon-sat. then go home for a week. his grandfather says you make an avg. of $2000-$2500 every 2 weeks! and thats after taxes. also, each day is a 12 hour shift. but you get paid time and a half after 40 hrs. thats alot of freaking money! at least, for me.

and again, i'll never give up. hopefully i can work at this company for a while, get aquainted with some csx employees, and maybe ill get a job there. or, maybe ill stay with this company.

spykes grandfather said that i'd be in contact with some pretty high up officials from CSX too.

btw, how did you like the site? idk how an ATSF flatcar made it to long island.

 

[SantaFebuff]

Fixed track with a soundscript to a point?

Cheers,
Joshua

 

[JCitron]

sorry to hear about the bug. you'll pull through. what dont kill you makes ya stronger

and hell no. no way am I giving up. I may never be able to become an engineer because of my knee, but, well this is gonna sound b.s., but i seriously have known this guy spyke from xbox who lives in indiana for 3 years. we've grown to become good friends, because hes an exact cop of me...his high is anything that has to do with a motor.

his grandfather owns a company that oversees work done on CSX lines!

he said he is going to get me an interview with his grandfather the next time he is in New York.

i would love the job, as spyke told me its 6 days a week, 2 weeks at a time...like work two weeks, mon-sat. then go home for a week. his grandfather says you make an avg. of $2000-$2500 every 2 weeks! and thats after taxes. also, each day is a 12 hour shift. but you get paid time and a half after 40 hrs. thats alot of freaking money! at least, for me.

and again, i'll never give up. hopefully i can work at this company for a while, get aquainted with some csx employees, and maybe ill get a job there. or, maybe ill stay with this company.

spykes grandfather said that i'd be in contact with some pretty high up officials from CSX too.

btw, how did you like the site? idk how an ATSF flatcar made it to long island.

Good luck with the job prospects. This sounds like an interesting job that will pay well. That's really good money, by the way. Maybe around $75K per year!

The site is very nice. Well laid out. The only complaint I have is some of the pictures could be bigger, but that's my old tired eyes and my big display, which makes everything too small.

I have no idea how an ATSF flatcar could make it to New York other than as part of a consist, but got left behind.

John

 

[Conductorphil]

Back to the original topic...

Fixed track would indeed make it easier. Or, better yet, perhaps N3V could get around to making the updated junctions that everyone has been craving since TS2009 where it automatically puts in Frogs. From what I hear, Andi06 has managed to come up with a solution that would work, except our good 'ol friends at N3V haven't really responded to his multitude of emails.

Though, your right, since pretty much all points in the world are different, creating the delay would be difficult.

UNLESS

We set the delay in the junction switcher? How difficult a modification would it be?

Name: 0019
Frog Distance: 3 metres (Random speculation. Hate me if I'm wrong, blah blah blah)

As such, the script tells the game to delay the sound file UNTIL the locomotive/whatever is approximately three meters away from junction. I know for an absolute fact that Trainz is capable of working out distances, otherwise your advanced HUD Odometer is a piece of lying trash. (I worked out that the Odometer is actually one meters off after travelling 300km, which isnt really that bad)

Speculations anyone?

 

[overkill650]

yeah i know, the pics are a little small, but the site is hosted by a really old web site hoster.

and waaaay out east, in montauk, there is a really random section of track a little before the station. the guy that runs the club said that he heard there used to be a switch/ junction there, but they removed it and now its a 40 ft. piece of track. well, two weeks ago i drove out there with a friend, did some off roading, and went to the spot.

i searched for hours in the woods, and literally tripped over a random rail like 70-90 ft. from the mainline. i uncovered some dirt, and there were some rails there. i followed them to a lower area, maybe 10 ft lower than the mainline, and guess what i found!

a very old UP gondola and an all wooden (except for the frame and floors) caboose!!

these had to be at least 70 years old or more, because the gondola is so rusted that the bed is mostly rotted out, and the caboose's wheels are rusted to the rails. like there is rust build-up on the rail beside the wheels.

theyre sitting under a heavily overgrown small depot/ shelter. ther was also the foundation to a small building, like 15x20, and a concrete road leading to the water with a 20ft wide by 120ft long pier. it was very cool.

i told the NHRS president, me and him went to go look at it, and he said to not even bother because they were so heavily deteriorated and almost impossible to get to.

 

[overkill650]

i wish i took pics, next time i will

 

[PerRock]

One can change track sounds on various track splines in their configs. I would assume the same is true for point motors as well. Why not make a point motor which has a blank sound, that way when you hit it you hear nothing. Then make a trackside-object that is a frog that then has a switch sound (and probably a better one then what is default.

peter

 

[narrowgauge]

Entering a delay will work one way when running from the blades to the crossing, but it would mean that in the other direction it would occur when the wheels are on the straight, not at all what you want.

I think Peter's idea needs investigating.

Peter

 

[PerRock]

have two track objects,each one half of the frog, one on each of the two (or three) tracks. Or alternatively just have an invisible sound trigger.

I however haven't the slightest idea how to do the stuff I've talked about...

peter

 

[norfolksouthern37]

if they knew how to find the location of the frog points then theyd know how to create automated frogs for the track geometry... so its safe to say, they dont know. its 1200 times easier to place the sounds in the junction lever.