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Working on the Superliners again, at this point I think they're pretty much ready to be made into all the car variations. However, before I commit to that, does anyone see anything basic mesh wise that does not look correct because now would be the time to point it out before I divide the single mesh into every common Superliner type.
 
Jerker,

those Victorian Railways Aa class locomotives look wonderful. I'd have to say that the Canadian red version with a six-wheel tender is my favorite; the polished brass is just beautiful!
 
I see the LMS 10000 is getting mentioned, so I thought I'd own up to having had this in progress for the last six years. One day I'll get around to completing it.

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Hi Mike,

Please, oh please finish it! :D :udrool:

Can that 'one day' be tomorrow? Or how about yesterday? :hehe:

Kieran.
 
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G'day Trainboi1, LNERlover5 and S301,


@LNERlover5,

...indeed, Jack, your Deane Sterling is looking magnificent, although, as "saturnr" said, the D41 is a beautiful design and one which is close to my heart...


@Trainboi1,

...which makes your rendition of this 4-4-0 design of great interest to me. Needless to say the work you have displayed is above reproach but my own beloved "VR" (the Victorian Railways - the state run railways of Victoria, Australia), built similar locos to an almost identical design. These were known to the 'department' as Aa Class locomotives and here is a render of my recreation of these engines (a work in progress for some years, now)...


Red with brass dome and stack picture

...here, she is resplendent in the so-called "Canadian Red" livery in which these locos were originally released. Like yours, my creation also comes in three different releases, as you see it above with a 'standard' three wheel tender typical of the day; in the slightly modified "Canadian Red" scheme that was applied to them about ten years after they were built, at the same time they were provided with the 'new' higher capacity bogie red with Ed dome and all black stack.

black stack picture

...and as they finished up, in 'standard' "VR black" (with the aforementioned bogie tenders)...


VR black picture

...unlike yours, however (at least as far as I can tell from the two images you have provided), my models come equipped with fully functioning, internal, Stevenson's Valve Gear...


Inside Stephenson Valve Gear Photo

...these models are, potentially, only a few months away from being released...

@S301,

...the work on the M Class is progressing extermely well, there, Zec, although I do have to say that when I first saw your most recent image, I thought the "Billy" was just another bucket (before I had a chance to read the text to be corrected), so might I suggest that you make it more obviously a "Billy" by adding some water to it or by putting some tea in that water or by adding an appropriate lid to it. It also took me a while to 'observe' the mugs, despite knowing of them beforehand (it's always possible that textures will overcome these issues)...

Jerker {:)}

I love the VR 4-4-0s, I know exactly which of my own routes I will put this engine on, It will go nicely alongside the other VR engines on it. I adore the brass dome and stack variant, but the red dome black stack looks nice too. My inner piggy is jumping up in down inside me. Zec's M Class does for a fact look nice, as does the fully functional valve gear. One question, will this be freeware or pay ware?

Saturnr
 
Hi Saturnr,

Here is another 4-4-0, this one designed by Kitson & Co 1887 and built by Phoenix Foundry 1887-1888

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They where built for the light lines however they where too heavy and damaged track by 1890's, a Canadian Red version will be in T:ANE on Zec's Healesville route.

Cheers.
 
That Kitson 4-4-0 very nice, but not quite as elegant as the stack and pilot of the VR A I think, but still very pretty, it it very "Kitsonesque". It appears more robust to my eye. You mentioned red, will there be a green one too, or is there already a green one in TS12?

Saturnr
 
You mentioned red, will there be a green one too, or is there already a green one in TS12?

Saturnr

I haven't released the Green one yet, I built it for the Geelong-Queenscliff route project back in 2011-2012, however I did a update to it for Zec Healesville last year, I've been focused more on updating the Y Class 0-6-0 and R Class 0-6-0, Zec is going to be updating the scripts for me, however this won't be till after T:ANE

Another 4-4-0 I attempted to build was this one, I started it mid 2010 but due to a lack of high res photos at the time I got stuck and couldn't continue and it was scrapped, in late 2013 I bought a book and it contained a nice high res photo and I'll be reviving it later in the year :)

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They where built in 1870s for the light lines (50lbs/y at the time) and one lasted till the end of WWI, they where not a powerful loco, only 8,250lb/f at 90PSI cylinder pressure.

Cheers.
 
I love that tapered chimney, with a brass/copper top it would be perfect in my mind, outside cylinder, and perfect firebox shape, that engine would be so beautiful in the green paint seen above with a shiny chimney top. I think she would also look great in Canadian red, blue, shiny black with a silver smokebox, or silver boiler and black smokebox, so almost any color used on trains. She would even look great in Cadbury Purple & White like 2705 had a few years back. A beautiful engine, slim and in perfect proportions, I think. Stupid question, do any survive in preservation today?

Saturnr
 
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*snip*

I'll take a break now...

Jack.

Apparently this has just been covered! See here: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/show...be-Released-or-upgraded&p=1366062#post1366062
Do with this info as you will; it's never a bad thing to have two copies of a great engine, but I feel this may allow your attention to be distracted elsewhere.

Jerker,
Fascinating stuff, although I feel that the VR design is a good bit taller and/or lower-drivered than the D41s...And also, mine does not come in only three liveries; I am merely struggling to complete the GNoSR lined green for this model and haven't gotten to the LNER lined black yet.
 
Apparently this has just been covered! See here: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/show...be-Released-or-upgraded&p=1366062#post1366062
Do with this info as you will; it's never a bad thing to have two copies of a great engine, but I feel this may allow your attention to be distracted elsewhere.

It's interesting being both pleased and agitated that a locomotive is ready in Trainz! :hehe: I've not spent too long on the single so I suppose now is the best time to pick something else, though it might be best if it was something more obscure. :o

Jack.
 
Got more work done over the past day on the Pannier Tank (Duck) Loco. Looks a lot better!
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Should be entering beta testing anytime soon.
 
G'day captainkman & Saturnr,

@ captainkman,

...thank you, Kieran, for the ever so polite "correction". I was well aware that the two locomotives were, indeed, called "Singles" and that they were designed by Mr. Deane and Mr. Stirling, respectively (my apologies for misspelling his name) but I was in somewhat of a hurry to submit the post, as I was anticipating the first 'run' of my brand new (Birthday present) HO scale Eureka™ VR "R" Class locomotive (equipped with sound) at the model railway club, that I must have rushed my thinking and "got it slightly wrong". For doing that, I do apologise to the general Trainz community...

@ Satrunr,

..the VR 4-4-0 roster is something of a minefield. The models that "Azervich" is working on are probably the early "H" and "G" Class locomotives, although the completed model in the first image above (the 'green' one) would seem to be an early "D" Class (which class, I thought, was the preserve of "S301"). The W. I. P. he has shown us in the second image, is his Mekle design "H" Class. There were also two other 4-4-0 passenger engine designs within the "A" Class classification, designated "Old A" and "New A" (different designs from my "Aa" Class) and we haven't even touched on the famous Rogers designed, Baldwin built, "V" Class 4-4-0 units, which should not be confused with the 2-8-0 Rogers "Consolidatiion" design "V" Class engines (recreated for Trainz by S301), which are already "out there" and then there's the "M" Class that "S301" is currently working on, to add to the list.

At this point in time, I am anticipating that the "Aa" locomotives will be "free-ware" but a lot will depend on how much more work I have to 'put into them' to get them 'published'. Ongoing at this point in time is the final stage of the work on my VR "C" Class 2-8-0 "Consolidation" type, which is offering much resistance (especially in the area of it's animation) and I want to get that 'out of the way' before I turn my hand back to the "Aa"...

@ any other VR fans,

...also on my plate at this time, is my first ever foray into VR rolling stock (other than a locomotive), in the form of the VR TT bogie Milk Van, which I thought would be an ideal accompaniment to the recently released Australian Milking Sheds of mine and my earlier Colac Butter Factory release. The TTs were built by the VR' Newport Workshops between 1898 and 1891 (squashing the idea that the VR only had "4 wheelers" in their roster before 1900). The Trainz release will involve four separate assets, representing two variants of two different phases of the vehicle. TT #1 was unique, in that it was provided from the outset with three single 'large' doors, as opposed to the remaining 30 constructs which were modified to only have 2 'small' double doors (this necessitated a different interior). So, I have two models for this contingency and the other two represent TT #1 and TT #2 onwards after 1933, when they were fitted with Auto-couplers and had other modifications made to them to modernise them. Here are four "rough and ready" renders showing these different variations...


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...which show, in order of appearance, TT No#1, as it was originally released into traffic; TT No#2 - 31 as they were originally issued to traffic; TT No#1, as it appeared after the modifications in 1933 and finally, TT Nos#2 - 31, after those same modifications. As you can see, there is a "shipload" of under body detail and these models will come with prototypical A. R. N., fully animated doors, MIN capabilities and animated hose-bags and couplers, as provided by the Victrainz Scripting System...

Jerker {:)}
 
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Fantastic, Garry! I've always thought we were lacking in a range of early VR Bogied stock. Were the original ones painted white like some ventilated vans or were they painted red/brown from the start?
Heres hoping after these and the Aa that the C class isn't too far behind! ;)

Cheers
Stevo
 
Very nice work Garry!!

One note, the 'high' air brake hose isn't currently supported by the ACS script from Bloodnok. I'd suggest using the 'standard' ones temporarily, and update at a later date once the 'high' brake hose is supported :) Also, I'd suggest using the existing meshes from the mesh library to ensure everything matches up. Give me a yell on Skype if you need any help with the scripts for the TT's, or with the AA class (I'd love to take these for a spin on the Healesville route!) :)

Also, for the Aa class, the Canadian Red locos never had polished brass/copper domes or safety valve 'domes'. These were always painted red on Canadian Red locos. The VR actually introduced this with the last few 2 tone green locos (specifically DD class locos), where they painted the domes green on them :)

As a note, the Rogers 4-4-0 locos were later classed 'D', not 'V' (the earlier V class was an 0-6-0) :)

I've actually been looking at the Old A class locos, as an extension of the M class project, but more just as a passing interest at the moment :)

Regards
 
Very nice work Garry!!

One note, the 'high' air brake hose isn't currently supported by the ACS script from Bloodnok. I'd suggest using the 'standard' ones temporarily, and update at a later date once the 'high' brake hose is supported :) Also, I'd suggest using the existing meshes from the mesh library to ensure everything matches up. Give me a yell on Skype if you need any help with the scripts for the TT's, or with the AA class (I'd love to take these for a spin on the Healesville route!) :)

Also, for the Aa class, the Canadian Red locos never had polished brass/copper domes or safety valve 'domes'. These were always painted red on Canadian Red locos. The VR actually introduced this with the last few 2 tone green locos (specifically DD class locos), where they painted the domes green on them :)

As a note, the Rogers 4-4-0 locos were later classed 'D', not 'V' (the earlier V class was an 0-6-0) :)

I've actually been looking at the Old A class locos, as an extension of the M class project, but more just as a passing interest at the moment :)

Regards
Maybe those brass domes and such could be a "what-if" or preserved looks, such as the in preservation in America the Southern 4501 was,painted all green, instead of black. On British rails, B1 61306 Mayflower carries a name and LNER apple green, yet she was built a month or two after the BR merger, meaning no name, or no green, so the domes could be a hypothetical variant maybe. I particularly like the brass cap stack.
I am excited by all these wonderful 4-4-0s. Is the Old A Class you mentioned in passing anywhere similar to Azervich's H/G class that I think is so perfectly proportioned?


Saturnr
 
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Is the Old A Class you mentioned in passing anywhere similar to Azervich's H/G class that I think is so perfectly proportioned?


Saturnr
Here's an Old A Class, they where built by Beyer Peacock, the New A Class was a Kitson & Co design, slightly smaller than the AA Class

http://wiki.prov.vic.gov.au/images/e/ef/12800-P0001-000008-100.jpg

Here's the goods engine that was built during the same time as the A, and M Class

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from 1886 the Government wanted Standard design locomotives, these would be ones with the same springs, coupling rods, connecting rods, cylinders. tubes, so the D 4-4-0, E 2-4-2T, Y 0-6-0, R 0-6-0, A 4-4-0 and EE 0-6-2 where built, as their was already a R Class and A Class, the Beyer Peacock design became 'old' with the Kitson's being 'New'.
Cheers.
 
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