Freight Rolling stocks on HSTs
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cascaderailroad
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The NEC see's freights at odd hours of the night.
By the way, a brand spanking new bi-level passenger car was just tagged onto the end a southbound CSX freight passing Chester Pa at 2:40 PM ... bet no one got a photo of that one of a kind consist shipment of a brand new railcar
By the way, a brand spanking new bi-level passenger car was just tagged onto the end a southbound CSX freight passing Chester Pa at 2:40 PM ... bet no one got a photo of that one of a kind consist shipment of a brand new railcar
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In general, only HST run on High Speed Lines (300 KPH/186 MPH). Theoretically, freight trains could run on some HST, but the maximum admitted speed for freight cars is much lower than that figure.
There are very few cars that are authorised at 140 KPH/87.5 MPH; some intermodal cars can run at 120 KPH/75 MPH but most freight cars can only run at 100 KPH/62.5 MPH.
Even in the most favourable case (HSTs and 140 KPH/87.5 MPH freights) it would be quite difficult co-ordinating the movements of trains so different. Moreover, having freights running on High Speed Lines does not make many sense, since the time savings with respect to traditional lines would be negligible.
The only exception are the French TGV used for mail transport, but these obviously run at the same speed of any other TGV. Over the years, several HS freight services (using containers very similar to those used in cargo planes) have been proposed, but so far none has materialised.
There are very few cars that are authorised at 140 KPH/87.5 MPH; some intermodal cars can run at 120 KPH/75 MPH but most freight cars can only run at 100 KPH/62.5 MPH.
Even in the most favourable case (HSTs and 140 KPH/87.5 MPH freights) it would be quite difficult co-ordinating the movements of trains so different. Moreover, having freights running on High Speed Lines does not make many sense, since the time savings with respect to traditional lines would be negligible.
The only exception are the French TGV used for mail transport, but these obviously run at the same speed of any other TGV. Over the years, several HS freight services (using containers very similar to those used in cargo planes) have been proposed, but so far none has materialised.
cascaderailroad
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On the NEC the two innermost tracks are ClassV (perfectly straight and smooth alignment) dedicated to HSR ... while the 2 outermost tracks are dedicated for local passenger and freight trains.
deanshults
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Hi
I know this is a little old, but I think I remember that the LGV (the lines that the TGV run on at high speed) have very strict weight restrictions, because the track is built to very tight tolerances to ensure smooth high speed running. ie, a heave freight train would wreak the track. So, no, freight in France does not run on the LGV.
I know this is a little old, but I think I remember that the LGV (the lines that the TGV run on at high speed) have very strict weight restrictions, because the track is built to very tight tolerances to ensure smooth high speed running. ie, a heave freight train would wreak the track. So, no, freight in France does not run on the LGV.
cascaderailroad
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That is why heavy freight trains need a dedicated right of way, as well as HSR needs it's own dedicated right of way, so the perfect alignment of HSR track is not destroyed by freight trains.