Euthanasia was the only way.

[Sean_lee]

TS12 and T:ANE Routes were put down today. After months of battling against an unknown illness. Windows 10 now being installed for a re birth. How many times over the years have I been here. Oh well once more into the firebox my friends for tomorrow. :'o

 

[pware]

My deepest sympathies to the relatives of the departed. May they rest in peace.

 

[blueodessey]

Sending you a Trainz resuscitation Prayer in the hopes of a positive outcome.

 

[cascaderailroad]

Tis' a shame ... You could have saved all your routes, and other PC data ... but now it is gone, into cyberspace ... RIP

 

[Vern]

A slightly dramatic analogy perhaps and not one that is going to sit well with pet owners who have had to authorise the vet to put a beloved family pet to sleep and stay with the animal while it is done.

Most route builders cull projects, I do it all the time sometimes losing weeks of work in the process so it's not a particularly exceptional concept.

 

[wholbr]

Hi everybody.

Tis' a shame ... You could have saved all your routes, and other PC data ... but now it is gone, into cyberspace ... RIP

Cascaderailroad, if it was in cyberspace it would still be available. Cloud storage has never been cheaper at this point in time, so back up everything to one or even better two of those services. Then even if the whole house burns down just plug in another computer, log on, download and away you go again. Err....when you got some new accommodation of coarse.

No need for all the dramatics and Hysteria in today's cloud served world.:'(
Bill

 

[cressjl]

Yes, I just finished rebuilding my laptop system after a hard drive failure just a few months ago. I got everything back eventually, save for the Blue Comet that many of us got for free after completing a survey or such back when.

I mounted the bad drive in a USB enclosure and was able to use a couple of freeware utilities to reach otherwise inaccessible sectors and retrieve some critical data.

Since, I keep critical data on a new desktop system; I bought an external USB 3/eSATA-capable enclosure an Paragon Hard Disk Manager. Every couple weeks I create a bootable mirror copy of the main drive. That way, in case the hard drive fails, I can boot the backup drive as if nothing happened.

As for cloud-based anything, forget it. I'll maintain my own systems without selling my soul to those who already know too much about my affairs.

And, your analogy is perfectly understandable to those who have experienced it, sad pet owners notwithstanding...

 

[ministerfarrigut]

For a second there I saw the thread headline and thought someone had actually died. I think I may have been right....i don't know. Sorry bout what happened.

 

[pcas1986]

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As for cloud-based anything, forget it. I'll maintain my own systems without selling my soul to those who already know too much about my affairs.

...

You can have your own personal clouds on networked drives. Mine sit above my desk on a shelf and are attached to a router.

I don't understand why the OP didn't backup those routes. I don't have much of a problem with Win10 but I did purge a lot of the app crap. It would be nice if MS allowed people to install what they want and not what MS think they need.

Climbing down off my soapbox now. :hehe:

 

[wholbr]

Hi everyone.

You can have your own personal clouds on networked drives. Mine sit above my desk on a shelf and are attached to a router.

The above is fine pcas1986, but in the case of fire or flood at the property that data is stored in, all is then lost. The foregoing is why the vast majority of companies store all their data over multiple cloud servers throughout the world. If anyone has a bank account, insurance or employment contract etc, they will be on those cloud servers whether they like it or not.

So, may has well backup your Trainz content data on there as well
Bill

 

[clam1952]

Hi everyone.


The above is fine pcas1986, but in the case of fire or flood at the property that data is stored in, all is then lost. The foregoing is why the vast majority of companies store all their data over multiple cloud servers throughout the world. If anyone has a bank account, insurance or employment contract etc, they will be on those cloud servers whether they like it or not.

So, may has well backup your Trainz content data on there as well
Bill

Take it you are not stuck out in the wilds with a capped 3G connection then? Try uploading 200GB of Trainz data with a 15GB or 20GB data limit, can't get anything higher here on 3 and ADSL is barely usable here would take forever to upload if it stayed connected for that long!

 

[wholbr]

Hi clam and everybody.
Here on the Bristol Channel coast we are somewhat out in the wilds but are well served by both BT and Virgin. My broadband speed at home is around 145mps throughout the day. However that does drop to around 75 to 100mps on an evening but I have no complaints with Virgins service.

The office at the far end of the town has the same service with approximately the same speeds. However, we now have five virgin fibre cables running into that feeding eighteen Chrome base desktops plus all the phones from around 7am in the morning until approximately eight or nine o'clock in the evening. All data at the office is stored on multiple cloud servers as North Somerset is a flood risk area.

I read that the government is putting large efforts into bringing high speed broadband to all areas of the UK over the next few years with the mobile phone networks also now offering unlimited data deals across the country many of which allow tethering. So, clam1952 you should be able to find something better than you have now in the near future.

I would certainly encourage everyone to at least backup their important personal and home documents on cloud storage, as when large areas of Somerset were flooded three years ago many people and businesses lost all data and files that made restarting very difficult if not impossible in some cases.

Bill

 

[JCitron]

Hi clam and everybody.
Here on the Bristol Channel coast we are somewhat out in the wilds but are well served by both BT and Virgin. My broadband speed at home is around 145mps throughout the day. However that does drop to around 75 to 100mps on an evening but I have no complaints with Virgins service.

The office at the far end of the town has the same service with approximately the same speeds. However, we now have five virgin fibre cables running into that feeding eighteen Chrome base desktops plus all the phones from around 7am in the morning until approximately eight or nine o'clock in the evening. All data at the office is stored on multiple cloud servers as North Somerset is a flood risk area.

I read that the government is putting large efforts into bringing high speed broadband to all areas of the UK over the next few years with the mobile phone networks also now offering unlimited data deals across the country many of which allow tethering. So, clam1952 you should be able to find something better than you have now in the near future.

I would certainly encourage everyone to at least backup their important personal and home documents on cloud storage, as when large areas of Somerset were flooded three years ago many people and businesses lost all data and files that made restarting very difficult if not impossible in some cases.

Bill

Good news on the network. The US is still spotty with some areas still on ADSL or satellite due to their sparse population. Where I live, we have 1500MB up and down speeds and broadband with no data cap though we do pay through the nose for that service with Comcast (Xfinity), and their requirement to purchase other services as well to get the data package is annoying at best.

Business continuity and data recovery are two very neglected areas in IT. Businesses owners rarely think of the worst and prepare for the what ifs. At the minimum businesses should have daily backups, whether they are done as full or incremental, or one of the variants of the scheme, and this data has to be taken offsite in some fashion. Disaster recovery is not just about the data and companies need to move other paper records offsite as well, and have a system in standby ready to be brought up if a disaster strikes. Then there are facilities, phone systems, employees, and so on to get a business up and running. For a small business, as you eluded to, this can make or break a company's ability to get up and running quickly, however, for these companies this concept is unknown, not even thought of at the least, and very likely well out of a budget that they can have so just having their data, both paper records, and computer data backed up safely and offsite is a good solution.

A public cloud does have its advantages, but then the end-user is subject to the whims and survivability of the cloud provider, and many end-users do not know where their data is hosted. For more secure data, it maybe a requirement that the data be hosted only in specific countries if the cloud provider has multiple worldwide colocations, and the cloud provider needs to provide forthcoming information on this, and provide reliable services and be held responsible for their uptime. It's also not a good thing if the provider happens to be offline during a critical backup so there needs to be an SLA or Service Level Agreement in place which guarantees a specific uptime of the services, barring connections of course!

The other solution is a private cloud. The device doesn't need to be in the same facility, however, it needs to be accessible over a fast network to allow for reliable backups. This is where the SLA with a bigger provider works, but having something in place is a good thing. There are inherent issues though with overwriting data, and those auto-backup systems. Recently there was an article, I can't find the link at the moment, about a woman whose cloud data was infected by ransomware. Her local data was infected initially then her auto-backup kicked in and overwrote the now stale data on the cloud with the encrypted ransomware files. This wasn't the fault of the backup program as it saw the files as changed and did what it was supposed to do. This is something to consider among the many other issues surrounding disaster recovery and business continuity.

These are just some of the things that need to be considered when it comes to business continuity and data recovery, and we've now gone well beyond the original subject on the forum!

 

[cascaderailroad]

I backup all my photos, music, video's, document data, and Trainz stuff, on 2 separate external HD's ... I probably will get another external HD for @ $80 to backup, VIP backups

Trainz is on one HD, all my other stuff is on the other

 

[Corey_Trainz]

It was the best thing about TS... may they rest in peace.:'(