Egos and model building.

[leeferr]

Aussie G-rating, not American; you need to change your definitions.



Actually I don't really see how the LPL issue can be argued much any more since there are models out there on the DLS of chicks with their dresses being 'blown' up, posing in more revealing clothing then LPL, etc.

My point is that it doesn't really matter here what you consider to be offensive or not, it is what the company (Auran) has decided based off their local customs.

peter

Where did you get the idea that it was an Aussie G rating. It's not my opinion that that phrase falls in any country's definition of G rated language.
I'm not trying to be a prude here as I'm used to all kinds of language and don't get offended by it. I just particularly get offended by that phrase and will defend my right to say so. Now I'll ask N3V's opinion. That's the one that counts.

Mike

 

[Retro00064]

Where did you get the idea that it was an Aussie G rating. It's not my opinion that that phrase falls in any country's definition of G rated language.
I'm not trying to be a prude here as I'm used to all kinds of language and don't get offended by it. I just particularly get offended by that phrase and will defend my right to say so. Now I'll ask N3V's opinion. That's the one that counts.

Mike

A moderator actually edited that phrase out of a thread title and opening post earlier this year.

Regards.

 

[n8phu]

Hi all :wave:


Define no copyright violations please Chris. In my understanding a copyright violation is when someone uses others work and passes it off as their own work. And it does not matter what people here think or how many of them think such. For if you use someone’s work that they may have spent many hours, days or even months to create; you are a thief no matter what your age is.

Now would you all think if someone broke into your house and stole your computer and the put it into a new case; and the said “but it’s a new computer because it has a new case”? It sounds daft, does it not? But that is what a lot of people are saying here, “I like that, so I will re-paint it and call it my own”. If anyone does that to my stuff; then you better believe I will sue you whatever you age. Because you would be a thief and if I cannot sue you, I will sue your dad.

Belkenn

As in I sit down with a set of plans and build a GP-40 or F7A or whatever from scratch. I.E. not using anything other than what I build with my own 2 hands..content built not using anyone else's work.

EDIT As for the reskin part of it, I had a project approved by the original mesh owner, I announced it, and then a few people decided to try and tell me that someone else already did that and I can't... Funny, the original owner is the only one who cant tell me that I can't...

What were you thinking?

 

[MuttsMooch]

Perhaps instead of expanding my vocabulary, one learns to think a little less conservatively and a little broader. If that were the case in the first place, the discussion at hand, and not the use of my language, would be null.

Secondly, pointing out my usage of the words further escalates the fact that it was used in the first place. I'm offended by the idiocy that is allowed at this forum, yet I don't go around pointing at everyone who I think constitutes as an idiot. That would take far too much time.

I shall use whatever words I find applicable until someone decides to ban me, but as it stands right now, I'm not about to change because someone didn't like my usage of the word god. My vocabulary is infinite, but the interpretation that some people find must be limited...

Regards,
Dillon

 

[Retro00064]

Perhaps instead of expanding my vocabulary, one learns to think a little less conservatively and a little broader. If that were the case in the first place, the discussion at hand, and not the use of my language, would be null.

Secondly, pointing out my usage of the words further escalates the fact that it was used in the first place. I'm offended by the idiocy that is allowed at this forum, yet I don't go around pointing at everyone who I think constitutes as an idiot. That would take far too much time.

I shall use whatever words I find applicable until someone decides to ban me, but as it stands right now, I'm not about to change because someone didn't like my usage of the word god. My vocabulary is infinite, but the interpretation that some people find must be limited...

Regards,
Dillon

Very well then, but such language is prohibited on these forums by the Code of Conduct. Go and read it now. This forum is not for those who swear, whether they like it or not.

Regards.

 

[belkenn]

Sorry Chris N8PHU,:wave:
That rant was not aimed at you, just at the fools that think that they can steal our work. Sorry Chris I respect your efforts.

And Mike you are a prude and if you want to preach then please read what I said. I will put it in big in case you have problems with normal text. What I said was that what may seem offensive in one country may not be so in another. Now read that and say sorry please.

Belkenn

 

[007007]

Very well then, but such language is prohibited on these forums by the Code of Conduct. Go and read it now. This forum is not for those who swear, whether they like it or not.

Regards.

 

[MuttsMooch]

I would like to mention, then, that words previously found foul by Auran and N3V have been censored on this forum. My phrase has not. I took your advice and reread the Code of Conduct, and found-

http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php5/Code_Of_Conduct

14. "[...] Whether the discussion or expression falls within this definition will be determined at the discretion of N3V staff and/or N3V appointed forum moderators."

I'll wait and see if I get the notification of a ban or suspension, but for now, those who find it offensive can congregate and plot my demise.

All the best,
Dillon

 

[joey4449]

Normally I refrain myself from posting on a topic like this so I don't look dumb but I'll go ahead and through in my 2 cents.
I personally enjoy watching the community kill itself, I get such a kick out of it! I do feel that many will come down this road set fourth here from the best to the worst and will unwind into nothing. But there is really nothing anyone can do to stop the stupidity of people all we can do is wait for us to drive each other out in till we are all gone and this community will be lost in the failures of internet history because we can not see past ourselves.
So plaese keep doing what you do guys, like I said I find it funny! :hehe:

 

[leeferr]

Sorry Chris N8PHU,:wave:
That rant was not aimed at you, just at the fools that think that they can steal our work. Sorry Chris I respect your efforts.

And Mike you are a prude and if you want to preach then please read what I said. I will put it in big in case you have problems with normal text. What I said was that what may seem offensive in one country may not be so in another. Now read that and say sorry please.

Belkenn

I won't say sorry, because I'm not. In what country is that phrase not offensive except in your own little world. I am not preaching. I'm only stating my opinion that I find that term offensive and I object to its use on this forum which is my right just as it is your right to state your opinion. You obviously don't find it offensive and deem it appropriate language for minors to hear and read. My ears are not so tender, but theirs are.

 

[Retro00064]

Yeah, it might just be time for a moderator to look at this thread and possibly close/lock it.

The original post in this thread by n8phu was about people trying to claim the right to even model a specific thing. People who think that they are the only ones entitled to model something are putting out a baseless and stupid claim.

Now, it has gone in to a hopeless argument between users over swearing.

REgards.

 

[Smileyman]

Goddamn isn't swearing.

There's nothing wrong with trying to stop kids from hearing bad words or phrases (or bad attitudes for that matter), and I'd be the first to step in if someone really started swearing, but that's ridiculous.

I think that parents in most Countries would be relieved if that was the worst their kids were coming out with when they were out with friends.

God I hate it when people get on their high horse and try to tell people they are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Some people really are sheltered.

I remember why I stopped coming here now.

Smiley.

 

[aardvark1]

AJ Fox, a Trainz Forum Moderator who lives in California, USA.

Pehaps Mr. Fox will make the correct decision on what does or what does not conform to the CoC.

I think Mr. Fox will make the correct decision.

Have fun

 

[PerRock]

Where did you get the idea that it was an Aussie G rating. It's not my opinion that that phrase falls in any country's definition of G rated language.
I'm not trying to be a prude here as I'm used to all kinds of language and don't get offended by it. I just particularly get offended by that phrase and will defend my right to say so. Now I'll ask N3V's opinion. That's the one that counts.

Mike

By talking to Lance Jago and Alan Yeomans back when auran ran an IRC chatroom & they worked for Auran (I believe Alan was rehired). As mentioned in one of my posts here in this thread. You would have known this if you HAD READ MY POSTS (admittedly I didn't say who by name...).

peter

 

[PerRock]

AJ Fox, a Trainz Forum Moderator who lives in California, USA.

Pehaps Mr. Fox will make the correct decision on what does or what does not conform to the CoC.

I think Mr. Fox will make the correct decision.

Have fun

Truthfully it is up Chris aka Windwalker (or one of his managers, like Tony) to make the call. AJ can say one thing, but it really isn't 'law' until the people hire up say it is.

peter

(sorry double post)

 

[leeferr]

By talking to Lance Jago and Alan Yeomans back when auran ran an IRC chatroom & they worked for Auran (I believe Alan was rehired). As mentioned in one of my posts here in this thread. You would have known this if you HAD READ MY POSTS (admittedly I didn't say who by name...).

peter

I'll take your word for it, but I find it very strange that either Lance or Alan would find that term G rated.

I'm not really sure why I'm being attacked here. All I originally said was that I found the term offensive, which is within my right. If you don't, fine. You are entitled to your opinion as much as I'm entitled to mine
Mike

 

[Boco]

Let's halt all of this for now and let the 'Super Mods' decide.

Have fun,

Boco