Destination Facilities for Gold Ore?

Xengeance

Bananarama Supremo
I'm in the process of adding a gold mine to my route which (to no surprise) produces Gold Ore, along with a production chain of industries to process it. However, I'm at a total loss trying to figure out what sort of second-stage or third-stage industries it would typically be sent to after leaving the mine. Would I need a smelter/foundry? Some sort of leaching or extraction plant, and then to a smelter? A large trough full of sheep and Skittles?

The DLS has plenty of Gold Mine-type assets, but it's a bit difficult to find anything for my trains to take the gold ore to since I haven't any idea what exactly it is I should be searching for. Any ideas?
 
Google is your friend.

See here http://www.marthamine.co.nz/ore_process.html

I will typically setup a gold mine and have a train deliver the ore to a "processing plant". I have not found a processing plant setup for receiving gold so I make my own with a suitable non industry enabled building and the MIN asset. Once the ore is processed one could imagine it is transported via "Wells Fargo" armored truck to the US Treasury department.

I hope that helps.

Randy
 
Typically, ore was shipped from the mine to a mill, where the gold is extracted. The gold bullion would then be shipped to wherever it would be used - a mint, or some other facility. Depending on the volume, the bullion would be shipped from the mill by truck / wagon or train.

Some examples of mills on the DLS are:
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Curtis
 
You already have a processing plant built in.

Explore Northbay County and you will find the complete cycle from Mine to Mill. You will also find a complete logging system that you can use to provide your mining timbers.

Everything you need is there.

Peter
 
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MORTHBAY COUNTY

You already have a processing plant built in.

Explore Morthbay County and you will find the complete cycle from Mine to Mill. You will also find a complete logging system that you can use to provide your mining timbers.

Everything you need is there.

Peter

Hi there can you please tell me where I can find Morthbay Country????
I am running TYRS 2010 and can not find it on the DLS
chris
cvkiwi
 
Oops!

Sorry. my spelling error, it should have been Northbay County and it is built in to TS2009 and TS2010

Peter
 
Hi there can you please tell me where I can find Morthbay Country????
I am running TYRS 2010 and can not find it on the DLS
chris
cvkiwi

Hmm, you need to switch off the favorites filter in 2010. Click on the little yellow star above the column of stars in the route window. You'll find a wealth of other routes installed among one of those is Northbay County.

Greetings from rainy Amsterdam,

Jan
 
Thanks for all the quick replies guys! It's kept me busy over the last couple days.

Although one thing I can't seem to wrap my head around is how the gold bullion (or any ore for that matter) is shipped out from something like a early 20th century stamp mill, for instance. Is it just packed into burlap sacks at the bottom of the mill and loaded onto flatcars/boxcars via crews of teamsters, kept in an ore bin and dropped into hoppers on one of the lower levels, or would it just be smelted on-site into ingots and sent on it's way in inconspicuously marked crates with 'This is clearly not a box of priceless gold bars. Do not open.' stenciled smugly onto the side in paint?

In addition, is it worth considering the need to haul the stamp sand and tailings by rail to another location for disposal if the nearby geography was inadequate to provide an depressed area to fill in, or would it simply just be dumped off the side of the hill there anyway, and what sort of storage would the stamp mill need in order to load it into rail cars (I'm almost certain it's some kind of overhead bin or tipple) and would it be built into the mill building itself or exist as a free standing structure nearby (with the sand deposited via conveyor, I assume)? Same questions also with the lime, mercury, and cyanide components used in the washing process (though I'd venture to guess that those three may be a bit more sophisticated than a large wooden bin, given their potential volatility).
 
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Thanks for all the quick replies guys! It's kept me busy over the last couple days.

Although one thing I can't seem to wrap my head around is how the gold bullion (or any ore for that matter) is shipped out from something like a early 20th century stamp mill, for instance. Is it just packed into burlap sacks at the bottom of the mill and loaded onto flatcars/boxcars via crews of teamsters, kept in an ore bin and dropped into hoppers on one of the lower levels, or would it just be smelted on-site into ingots and sent on it's way in inconspicuously marked crates with 'This is clearly not a box of priceless gold bars. Do not open.' stenciled smugly onto the side in paint?

In addition, is it worth considering the need to haul the stamp sand and tailings by rail to another location for disposal if the nearby geography was inadequate to provide an depressed area to fill in, or would it simply just be dumped off the side of the hill there anyway, and what sort of storage would the stamp mill need in order to load it into rail cars (I'm almost certain it's some kind of overhead bin or tipple) and would it be built into the mill building itself or exist as a free standing structure nearby (with the sand deposited via conveyor, I assume)? Same questions also with the lime, mercury, and cyanide components used in the washing process (though I'd venture to guess that those three may be a bit more sophisticated than a large wooden bin, given their potential volatility).

Hi,

I can offer a little help as I just finished Volume 2 of The RGS Story which covered Telluride and Pandora along with the surrounding mines and mills.

In the late 1800s, the mine complexes in the basins above Pandora varied depending upon their locations. Some of the first ones worked the exposed seams from the floor of the basins where there was enough room for a hammer mill. If there was a source of water available then the crushed rock would be washed and nuggets picked out by hand and bagged in burlap bags to be sent down the hill by wagon to Pandora. Here it would be loaded into boxcars and the car doors would be locked and a seal placed on the car doors by a mine worker. They were then taken to the smelter at Durango. This process left a good amount of gold, silver and other metals in the tailings by the mill but it wasn't consider cost effective to transport this lower grade ore to the smelter. Also mill workers were know to "pocket" a nugget when no one was looking.

Once these choice spots were claimed, other mines were left to work horizontal shafts into the walls of the basins to reach the seams. These mines didn't have room to build a mill so they used aerial tramways to send ore to the hammer mill at Pandora where it was processed and shipped as above.

Around the turn of the century, the milling process was improved with the introduction of the flotation mill. The hammer mill would crush the ore to a fine dust and that dust would be placed into large tanks were the metals would sink to the bottom while the light rock and sand would float on the froth generated by agitating the water with pressurized air. The froth and waste water would go to a settling pond. The hammer mill was later replaced by the ball mill where the ore would be placed in a large rotating drum with steel balls to crush the ore. The gold, silver and copper that came out of the flotation mill would be bagged and shipped to the smelter.

Later the process was changed to use cyanide to dissolve the gold from the fine crushed rock. Next, the gold-bearing solution is collected. Finally, the gold is precipitated out of solution by adding another metal like zinc. The gold is then collected as a dried paste and shipped to the smelter.

The one thing all these methods had in common was that they were toxic to the environment. The heavy snowfalls and run off leached heavy metals from the tailings piles and the ponds and polluted the streams and rivers around Telluride and Pandora.

William

Edit: Since most mines and mills were located in the high mountains it would have been unusual to have a smelter. Smelters needed a large supply of coal to operate and this wasn't found in the same areas as gold and silver. The smelter at Durango was supplied by the coal mines nearby at Porter and Perrins Peak.
 
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Some of the mills on the V&T shipped bullion; and some shipped sacks of ore concentrate.

On this page (#4096; about 1/4 way down) is a picture of the interior of one mill with workers cleaning up some bullion for shipment; possibly to the mint in Carson City.
http://carletonwatkins.org/list-page40Bns.htm
This would have been shipped by a Wells Fargo express car; possibly this one: http://www.nsrm-friends.org/nsrm64.html

The last revenue run of the V&T to Virginia City was to pick up a boxcar loaded with sacks of ore concentrate.

Curtis
 
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