brendansbiz
choo choo twain!
Is there any other recommended after market horns that I could find for the dash 9? Its just that mine sounds a bit odd?
Dash 9 Horn
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http://hornz.yolasite.com/horns.php
The "CSX Dash 9 K5LA" from there sounds pretty nice. You'll probably have to fix the thumbnail, though, as that causes nearly every horn from that site to be faulty straight out of the box.
The "CSX Dash 9 K5LA" from there sounds pretty nice. You'll probably have to fix the thumbnail, though, as that causes nearly every horn from that site to be faulty straight out of the box.
ryanstrains
Moderator
The horns that are on each unit match what the real unit has. You can change it but you'll loose the realism unless you replace it with the same horn type, and also do not edit the horn in CCP.
brendansbiz
choo choo twain!
It just sounds so funky?
Like the horn on all of the built-in SD40-2s since TS2009.... yeah they need a serious upgrade, like the default cab, which has somehow suffered overexposure in TS12. But back on topic, the horn on the CSX C40-8W is, from what I've heard, an RS-3L, which was the standard horn on a lot of Conrail units IIRC, and CSX got a lot of their C40-8Ws from the CR split, bringing the RS3Ls along with them.
Therock
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How is a recording of a real RS3L un-realistic? I don't understand this.. It's not like it's some kind of synthesized, spliced audio
norfolksouthern37
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All JR hornsounds are randomly chosen from a few samples we have created on a 1980s vintage Yamaha synthesizer with a MIDI output.
Really though - what dash 9 are you asking about and what exactly is wrong with the horn?
Really though - what dash 9 are you asking about and what exactly is wrong with the horn?
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Therock
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Latest JR S5T Hornsound: right here
I don't mean to diss JointedRail or anything, but it would probably be a good idea to put a little more effort into the horns you place on payware items. I mean, they are payware items after all... It's kinda annoying to buy this amazingly modeled locomotive but get in-game and it has the same RS3L that every other locomotive of that type has...
norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
Well it is a good thing that isn't the case then. I do apply different recordings of the same horn type on different items when they are on hand, but there will always be some that have the same sound, but to expect a unique and new recording for each locomotive even if it does have the same horn is kindof unrealistic in itself. I have 300 locomotives created by me alone, now all of them are not at JR, but mine and quite a few others' are. Is it really fair to expect that every one gets a new horn sound? Is that really important here?
Where does it stop then? brand new engine sound for each engine even though it is the same engine? brand new truck assets for each one even if the existing will do? model everything from scratch every time regardless if the object is the same? how in any way is this a disappointment or showing a lack of quality?
Where does it stop then? brand new engine sound for each engine even though it is the same engine? brand new truck assets for each one even if the existing will do? model everything from scratch every time regardless if the object is the same? how in any way is this a disappointment or showing a lack of quality?
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It isn't a lack a quality, but it's those little extra bits that gets people attracted and buy payware.
What you do at JointedRail is phenomenal, and i understand how much work you guys put into that stuff... But when a new locomotive comes out (like the Heritage P42DCs), you buy them, put them in-game and hear that they have the exact same AEM-7AC K5LA that all the other P42DCs have stock, it's just a little bit of a let down...
I in no way, shape, or form want to make you, NorfolkSouthern37, or anyone at JointedRail mad, I am just making a suggestion
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norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
Are you saying that amongst the P42DCs at JR you expect that they should have differing sounds for each? I am not really clear on what you mean. And I want to understand your suggestion. What scope? Among JR items only or between them and everything else available?
There are plenty of 'extra bits' on all JR items and one of those is we actually go through the trouble to match the horn sound with the horn the prototype locomotive has and what is modeled on the actual Trainz asset. The idea that we need to go farther than that and make a unique horn recording for each item is beyond me. I can not help nor predict if you will be tired of any one sound or another, and the only other option is to make an original horn on every release which is not practical.
There are many assets to choose from but let's face it most K5LAs sound generally the same. Yes there are going to be variations based on the past of said horn but all in all a K5LA is a K5LA as is any other horn type. I am not offended by your suggestion at all, but I would like to know how you justify it.
In the end I think that JR will do what it has done from the start and that is apply an appropriate sound that matches the prototype horn geometry that is represented on the model. You can not really ask for any better than that; it is a far cry from what you may find elsewhere. If you wish the locomotives to always sound like a K5 regardless if the model actually displays a P3 that will be up to you to change - we stick to the prototype.
While all the P42's on Amtrak have K5LAs, each one sounds a bit different. Kind of like their own personality.
ryanstrains
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How about you go record each and every P42 in high quality and make a horn sound for each.While all the P42's on Amtrak have K5LAs, each one sounds a bit different. Kind of like their own personality.
norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
While all the P42's on Amtrak have K5LAs, each one sounds a bit different. Kind of like their own personality.
This is still a very unreasonable request. I would even dare say that to make it practical we would have to implement payware horns.
cascaderailroad
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You can personalize any loco you want with a different hornsound kuid placed in the config file ... go find em' ... and DIY