CSX is Green, but UP and BNSF...

Euphod said:
Actually they are doing pretty well...:o. SP is long gone, so how good could they have been as a company?
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I don't you tell me. They were a good company until the old washed up jerks that were managing them screwed it all up. I should hunt the people who were managing SP at the time of its collapse and whoop their butt for depriving me the right to work on my dream railroad.
 
RULE #1 of ECONOMICS:

If you want to improve the economy, pollute. Or clean up the other guy's pollution and get paid by the government.

Anti-pollution=No economic growth.
(just learned this yesterday in class)

My $3 due to inflation
 
Kris94 said:
I don't you tell me. They were a good company until the old washed up jerks that were managing them screwed it all up. I should hunt the people who were managing SP at the time of its collapse and whoop their butt for depriving me the right to work on my dream railroad.
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Ok, that's like me saying I'm gonna hire a psychic to talk to Steve Jobs' ghost and chew him out for not giving me the chance to have him autograph a computer for me.
 
simulatortrain said:
Ok, that's like me saying I'm gonna hire a psychic to talk to Steve Jobs' ghost and chew him out for not giving me the chance to have him autograph a computer for me.
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No much different because it was people's livelihoods that were trashed and I had thought SP was never around when I was younger and now I see why.
 
Kris94, you need to really take an economics/business class before you start developing a radical opinion on corporate takeovers and how people run their businesses.

As far as pollution is concerned in California, there are all kinds of factors. When we don't have enough rain, and the smog continues to thicken in the air, people start complaining. I'm sure someone was driving down "The 5" (or just highway 5 as us NorCal'ers would call it) and couldn't see the skyscrapers in downtown LA with all the smog, and I'm sure tried to find a way to voice their opinion about the whole issue.

Blaming the railroad does nothing to solve the issue. Maybe if the California government (in all their infinite wisdom) was able to develop a plan to eliminate grid-locking, stop large traffic pileups at rush hour, etc. then we could see a reduction in the amount of idling cars, therefore a possible reduction in pollution. They should increase the fines for rubbernecking, allow larger incentives to carpool, etc. Just my 5 cents on that.
 
[METRA]
oo__oo
isnt green even though they claim to be
?? i have been train watching and then an hour later coughing crap up thats green black yellowish.. (i dont think its black,i should stop spiting on blacktop) but still poluiton effects all of us..
 
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NickyVeee said:
Kris94, you need to really take an economics/business class before you start developing a radical opinion on corporate takeovers and how people run their businesses.

As far as pollution is concerned in California, there are all kinds of factors. When we don't have enough rain, and the smog continues to thicken in the air, people start complaining. I'm sure someone was driving down "The 5" (or just highway 5 as us NorCal'ers would call it) and couldn't see the skyscrapers in downtown LA with all the smog, and I'm sure tried to find a way to voice their opinion about the whole issue.

Blaming the railroad does nothing to solve the issue. Maybe if the California government (in all their infinite wisdom) was able to develop a plan to eliminate grid-locking, stop large traffic pileups at rush hour, etc. then we could see a reduction in the amount of idling cars, therefore a possible reduction in pollution. They should increase the fines for rubbernecking, allow larger incentives to carpool, etc. Just my 5 cents on that.
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I'm actually taking economics and it seems that the way businesses are ran needs to change fast. I think the stupid congress needs to get out of the way. Hell the gov't needs a makeover for that matter. That's the only we will get these issues of business solved.
 
Without government involvement in business and its practices, you'd see the following:
  • No minimum wage requirements
  • Increased and unregulated discrimination and harassment in the workplace, and hiring practices
  • Unsafe working environments (no workers' comp, health inspectors, etc.)
  • Lack of company benefits, insurance, paid time off (sick leave, vacation), etc.
Yes, with government involvement we have stifled competition and that will drive up the prices of products, goods, and services. But it's the people at the bottom who would have to deal with the issues bulleted above on a day in day out basis, if government did not involve themselves in business affairs.

You may just be sore because of the buyout of SP in 1988, and subsequently 1996. But that doesn't mean that every business runs that way.
 
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NickyVeee said:
Without government involvement in business and its practices, you'd see the following:
  • No minimum wage requirements
  • Increased and unregulated discrimination and harassment in the workplace, and hiring practices
  • Unsafe working environments (no workers' comp, health inspectors, etc.)
  • Lack of company benefits, insurance, paid time off (sick leave, vacation), etc.
Yes, with government involvement we have stifled competition and that will drive up the prices of products, goods, and services. But it's the people at the bottom who would have to deal with the issues bulleted above on a day in day out basis, if government did not involve themselves in business affairs.

You may just be sore because of the buyout of SP in 1988, and subsequently 1996. But that doesn't mean that every business runs that way.
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Yeah but look what you have as well. Monopolies are an issue the gov't could choose to support whoever they want and not to mention they can be the reason why some of these companies are going under they only care about big businesses not knowing that the poor people are just as important if not more. Think about rep. they only give money to wealthy people and then it trickles down. You have greed too. So it goes both ways there's a downside to everything and nothing is perfect I understand that but it shouldn't be corrupt either.

There's a book written by the Minnesota Governor and former wrestler Jessie Ventura called 63 documents the gov't doesn't want you to know about. I think it would help in this predicament.
 
i'd buy the diesel fumes making kids sick IF everyone who works or lives at or around a railroad got sick everytime a train passed or sat idle. i'd would be interesting to have a map of railroad yards to see if the people around them developed more chronic diseases versus people who don't. however, i there are other factors (with everything) that would flaw the map. in my opinion though, and w/ all due respect to the families of the sick children, i cannot see it being soley the railroads fault.
 
Kris94 said:
Yeah but look what you have as well. Monopolies are an issue the gov't could choose to support whoever they want and not to mention they can be the reason why some of these companies are going under they only care about big businesses not knowing that the poor people are just as important if not more. Think about rep. they only give money to wealthy people and then it trickles down. You have greed too. So it goes both ways there's a downside to everything and nothing is perfect I understand that but it shouldn't be corrupt either.

There's a book written by the Minnesota Governor and former wrestler Jessie Ventura called 63 documents the gov't doesn't want you to know about. I think it would help in this predicament.
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The government can't afford to bail out every single company. Thats the reason they bail out big companies that without them around would hurt us.
 
Beattie said:
The government can't afford to bail out every single company. Thats the reason they bail out big companies that without them around would hurt us.
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Yeah and without us they wouldn't be a business.

We should be paying off our debts instead of giving out money to companies who couldn't even swim from one end of a swimming pool to the other end.
 
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Kris94 said:
POLITICS, POLITICS, POLITICS!! That's all there is in America nowadays. We should be paying off our debts instead of giving out money to companies who couldn't even swim from one end of a swimming pool to the other end without sinking or drowning. So if China demanded our money tomorrow we'd have to file bankruptcy and even suffer a war and then the US will wish they'd gotten its crap together.
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Are there any ones you're not going to break Kris??

Jamie
 
H222 said:
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Are there any ones you're not going to break Kris??

Jamie
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I don't break the rules if there's any. I always do what's right.
 
Hmm. I really don't think that a railroad makes any more pollution than a freeway, if not less.
More people should go by train to work and see if that solves the problem.
 
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