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bigcreekcowboy

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I am helping set up a new route for a local college who offers a railway conductor program. We are investigating the possibility of using the game as a way to show scenarios in the class room. I have set up a OCS subdivision, one thing I am lacking is the rule 42 and 43 track side flags. I am looking for someone who would be willing to donate some time and build them. All it would have to be is a square that can be plainly seen on the side of the track. A green, red, yellow, and a flag that is yellow on top and red underneath, nothing fancy is required.
Thank you
 
Without a prototype image, from a real RR, it is as if it doesn't exist, and can not be created without an actual image to go by ... is it in the gauge, off to the side, high low, RH or LH ???
 
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NSW XPT Stop SignR - Willem2
NSW XPT Stop SignL - Willem2

Could be recolored is MS Paint, or Irfanview

Knowing just how hard it is to drive a stake into the ballast, this is no easy chore ... is this the proper way to teach conductors how to stop a train from coming in on workers and equipment ?
 
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Something like this? jatws.org/edh6/flags.zip

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Oh Yeah ... I can see workers easily shoving, not only one ... but 2 stakes into the irregular rock hard ballast ... everyday, at every yard movement

How about using a large Blue Flag clamp, that fits to the rail ... now there's a novile device that might actually be used by a conductor or yard crew

In an automotive assembly line there was a reset switch, that constantly tripped, that required a worker to pull down on on the reset switch, by climbing up a ladder to a scaffold, in order to reset the power on ... one bright new worker came up with the novile idear' that a rope be attached to the switch, so that no one needed to climb the ladder, to turn the switch back on ... the head safety man said it would never work, as someone might inadvertently push up on the rope, turning the power off
 
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bigcreekcowboy said:
edh6 absolutely PERFECT!!! How do I download it using the Trainz download station? Thank you so much, you rock!
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Glad you like them, they only took a few minutes to make.

Click the link in my previous post to get them immediately (from jatws.org). I can put them on the DLS too if that would be helpful.
 
I am using a macbook and have not been able to figure out how to get it in to my Trainz program. I am just dumb railroader and not very good at this computer stuff.
 
I am interested that ... You are actually training conductors, in the use of unprototypical items: that either do not exist in the real world of being a conductor ... and as that these items would be too difficult to stick in the ballast as they have 2 pegs ?

These could be recolored easily, and may exist for conductors to actually use in the course of their duties, on the road and in yards ... but still would require a sledge hammer to drive into the rock ballast

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Opps I was over complicating it. All I had to do was drag and drop. The prototype signs are double sided but I will just put two against each other to represent both sides. Thank you again for your help. And Cascaderailroad they are prototypical. As a conductor I work with them everyday. They are used by track crews to mark the advance to (yellow) and the actual limits (green) of a piece of track that has a slow order on it. The yellow over red flag is used in advance to warn train crews of a piece of track being worked on by track workers (red flag). Here is a copy of the CROR regarding signals (flags) https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/railsafety/...tco167-164.htm
 
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I still see no CROR images on Google Images, of trackside signs / flags that have 2 pegs ... are conductors required to find these items in the back of a MOW truck, or in the cab of a loco, and drive them home into the rock hard ballast using a sledge hammer ?

If they are cloth, wouldn't they easily rip under tension, when rotten

And if they were metal, wouldn't the metal bend and distort when flexed, and the welds or bolts shear off when driven alternatingly into the ballast ?
 
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Train crews are forbidden to touch signals. They are strictly for the use of maintenance crews to protect them selves and track that has slow orders over it. And I would imagine they would need a hammer to put them in. I have had to report a signal flag that has fallen over a few times to the dispatcher.
 
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edh6 said:
Glad you like them, they only took a few minutes to make.

Click the link in my previous post to get them immediately (from jatws.org). I can put them on the DLS too if that would be helpful.
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I got it figured out and installed on my computer, But I can't put two against each other to make it double sided because they jump over the track. I feel bad for asking this, but can you make them double sided? Thanks again for your help
 
Here MOW workers in high visibility orange shirts, meticulously hand rake ballast (note the steel toe OSHA safety compliant flip-flops, and foreman with a STFU Chin strap)
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Perhaps someone can upload those to the DLS as well. :hehe:
 
bigcreekcowboy said:
I got it figured out and installed on my computer, But I can't put two against each other to make it double sided because they jump over the track. I feel bad for asking this, but can you make them double sided? Thanks again for your help
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They are now double sided. I had assumed they were single sided as the ones used by the permanent way gangs on the Ffestiniog railway (where I volunteer) have a blank reverse so drivers know which direction they apply to.

Just download again from here: jatws.org/edh6/flags.zip Remember to commit/submit the assets after installing and overwriting the original.
 
Thank you once again. I remember riding Ffestiniog many years ago, its a fascinating, scenic line. I work the former BCRail in British Columbia.
 
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