Considering buying Trainz 12: Question about hardware

Yes, I have played it a little, but had to go sleeping because it was already past 3 in the morning, lol

I've contacted Steam for a refund. Like I said, I don't expect too much. But since the game is not as advertised on the Steam shop, I thought I'd give it a try.
 
I've got the Steam version of both TS10 and TS12, and although it is true that Steam versions lag behind in patches compared to a standalone version which you can patch manually, as is often the case with Steam versions of things, I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's not the end of the world.

As you have no doubt seen, the Steam version runs okay and there's only the odd (in fact fairly rare) issue with some add-on content which requires the most recent patch, but in any case I can tell you that I've bought stuff like the payware Duchess and other bits and direct from Auran, and Jointed Rail and RRMods payware locomotives too, and I have had them running in a Steam versions of TS10 and TS12 with no problems, so I know for sure that you can do it even without all the latest patches.

Having said that, I did also buy TS12 from Auran as well (so yes I have TS12 twice LOL) and in comparing the two versions, Steam and standalone, since I am in a position to do so, I would say that it is not the disaster many would claim it to be to have the Steam version, it's only really when you get heavily into making your own content that you might find you'd prefer a fully patched up version of it so you have all that is available at hand in terms of DLC bits and pieces. But if you've only just bought the thing, then you probably want to play around with its default content before delving into the creative side of what it can do, so it's really not a big deal, at least for a good while.

Al
 
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I've got the Steam version of both TS10 and TS12, and although it is true that Steam versions lag behind in patches compared to a standalone version which you can patch manually, as is often the case with Steam versions of things, I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's not the end of the world.

As you have no doubt seen, the Steam version runs okay and there's only the odd (in fact fairly rare) issue with some add-on content which requires the most recent patch, but in any case I can tell you that I've bought stuff like the payware Duchess and other bits and direct from Auran, and Jointed Rail and RRMods payware locomotives too, and I have had them running in a Steam versions of TS10 and TS12 with no problems, so I know for sure that you can do it even without all the latest patches.

Having said that, I did also buy TS12 from Auran as well (so yes I have TS12 twice LOL) and in comparing the two versions, Steam and standalone, since I am in a position to do so, I would say that it is not the disaster many would claim it to be to have the Steam version, it's only really when you get heavily into making your own content that you might find you'd prefer a fully patched up version of it so you have all that is available at hand in terms of DLC bits and pieces. But if you've only just bought the thing, then you probably want to play around with its default content before delving into the creative side of what it can do, so it's really not a big deal, at least for a good while.

Al

I think Steam is dishonest when they sell something like TS12 and don't warn people up front that it is not the exact same program that they would get if they bought it from the manufacturer of the product. It is like getting an iPad from someone minus a few features that are on the iPads from Apple. And there should be absolutely no reason that updates should lag more than a day or two if at all on a Steam version of something. Steam is into making money quickly, period. Customer no service seems to be their motto.
 
Yup, if I have a choice in the matter, I would not get the Steam version of something if I could otherwise get something direct from the developer or whatever, and that is largely because of the issue of patches lagging behind what is generally the case for standalone versions of things. The fact that unless one is prepared to faff about with installations, one has to be online to fire stuff up is not always a great feature either.

But one has to consider that Steam has its up sides too, when it does patch things up, it does so without any need to arse around finding unzipping and downloading such stuff, and it is a one-stop-shop that many find convenient too, one which has regular sales, and with a built-in social network facility too. Plenty of people like that kind of thing and find it an attractive and hassle-free way to go about gaming.

Al
 
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