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[pdkoester]

just don't run the game off of the External Storage Drive.. You will corrupt the game before even getting started again!

Are saying this because of the potential to map the drive letter to a different one if plugged into a different port?

 

[RetroRails12]

Are saying this because of the potential to map the drive letter to a different one if plugged into a different port?

External Storage Drives are only made for Storing Files such as documents and personal things that you wanna have a backup copy of.. Thus Playing games on External Drives will cause alot of problems with the drive its self.. I have seen plenty of issues with People playing games on External Storage Drives on these forums to the point of no return there are a Ton of posts about External Drive issues on these forums..

 

[johnwhelan]

just don't run the game off of the External Storage Drive.. You will corrupt the game before even getting started again!

I think a number of people run trainz off an external hard drive. I don't see any reason why the game would be corrupted when running from an external drive. USB 3 is fairly fast. You'd want to back up to a second drive though. One of my external drives is an NMVE drive inside a case, it works fine.

Cheerio John

 

[sultan1966]

just don't run the game off of the External Storage Drive.. You will corrupt the game before even getting started again!

I run mine across my OWC Accelsior 8M2 NVMe M.2 PCIe 4 in RAID 0 @ 22,000MB/s and have had no issues. I use RealTimeSync from there to my newer Oyen Mobius DAS to keep everything in check, then it's off to my old Drobo NAS for cold storage and the 3rd copy.

 

[RetroRails12]

I run mine across my OWC Accelsior 8M2 NVMe M.2 PCIe 4 in RAID 0 @ 22,000MB/s and have had no issues. I use RealTimeSync from there to my newer Oyen Mobius DAS to keep everything in check, then it's off to my old Drobo NAS for cold storage and the 3rd copy.

A External Storage Drive is an EXTERNAL Hard Drive its not an NVME Solid State Drive!

 

[johnwhelan]

A External Storage Drive is an EXTERNAL Hard Drive its not an NVME Solid State Drive!

I have normal external SSD drives that work fine, I also have a UGreen extremal NMVE enclosure which works fine with an NMVE drive inside.

You can look up "ASUS TUF Gaming A1 External M.2 NVMe SATA PCIe SSD Enclosure - USB-C, M.2 Q-Latch for Easy Installation" on Amazon. ASUS TUF gaming are not renown for their low end products.

They are useful when you don't want to open the case up or there isn't room inside for another drive.

Cheerio John

 

[AdvancedApproach]

I’ll be using a Western Digital SN850X 4TB M.2 NVME SSD in my next computer.

 

[johnwhelan]

I’ll be using a Western Digital SN850X 4TB M.2 NVME SSD in my next computer.

I understand 8TB ones are now available.

Cheerio John

 

[pdkoester]

I’ll be using a Western Digital SN850X 4TB M.2 NVME SSD in my next computer.

Make sure the firmware is the latest update installed on it.

 

[AdvancedApproach]

I understand 8TB ones are now available.

Cheerio John

Too expensive.

 

[sultan1966]

A External Storage Drive is an EXTERNAL Hard Drive its not an NVME Solid State Drive!

Have it running on my Oyen Mobius Pro 5C DAS w/ 4-4TB WD Blue WD40EZAX/5400RPM/256MB Cache/CMR HDD in 2 diff RAID 0. 1st RAID 0 for game and 2nd RAID 0 for file sync of game on 1st. Slower as to be expected, yes, but so far so good. Reported on this same setup here last year but on a slower machine than this one. Will run for several weeks and see if I get the same results as I did before. It didn't crash and burn then and I don't think it will now. We'll see.

 

[sultan1966]

Reporting back.. No crashes or errors although slower across the DAS running w/ ole school"platters". I expected the same, even @ RAID 0. Have moved everything off the Mac Pro and the Oyen DAS back to my Mac mini M4 Pro w/24GB RAM. Still overkill for this game but this is where it will stay.

 

[Papa_de_05]

I run my game of an exteral drive: a Seagate HD. It's not an SSD. The game runs fine (ok... it's no worse than when it was on the SSD). I'm on a laptop and the SSD only has 454GB, so it quickly runs out of room. I create back CDP as soon as do any work on my routes. I keep a copy on cloud storage. Works great if you have a good broadband connection.

 

[JCitron]

I think a number of people run trainz off an external hard drive. I don't see any reason why the game would be corrupted when running from an external drive. USB 3 is fairly fast. You'd want to back up to a second drive though. One of my external drives is an NMVE drive inside a case, it works fine.

Cheerio John

I use an Oyen multi-bay external box connected to my desktop via a USB-C. It's as fast, if not a bit faster, than SATA. What is nice about the external box is I copied my Trainz data-folder on to my laptop directly by plugging the cable into the laptop instead of my desktop. I'm still using hard disks instead of SSD devices. These are enterprise quality Iron Wolf drives with large caches and come with a 5-year warranty.

While more and more people are moving to SSDs and yes, I know they that they are getting better and supposedly have the same lifetime of a regular hard drive, once they fail usually without any warnings, they are dead. It is also extremely difficult to recover data from them even for outside services with special software.

 

[dangavel]

just don't run the game off of the External Storage Drive.. You will corrupt the game before even getting started again!

Why do you state that? this is not my experience , i've been running both 2019 and 2022 off external SSD'S for several years as my laptop has limited drive space , I back the builds up to other external drives , no issues ( apart from the usual Trainz issues that happen whatever media you have your work stored on ).

 

[JCitron]

The only time data corruption will occur, not can occur, is when an external drive is unplugged carelessly without unmounting the volume. In all the years of using an external drive, at least since 2010 when I used one with my laptop while traveling, I have never ever had any external drive corrupt a Trainz database. The only issues I ran into then, as now, are the usual annoying Trainz issues.

External hard drives need to be treated just like their internal brethren. Defragment them and run periodic diagnostics on them as needed, trim them if they are non-volatile storage such as SSDs or NVMe devices. The only thing that needs attention is the external cable to ensure that it remains attached until the drive is removed from the computer and then do so after unmounting the drive first.