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Couldn't be the Pioneer Zephyr She was born in 1935. You got the CB&Q part right tho(I hope!).
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Hum, asking this question of google/wikipedia gives this result;
Starting in the 1950s, the passenger travel market declined in North America, though there was growth in commuter rail. The higher clearances in North America enabled bi-level commuter coaches that could hold more passengers. These cars started to become common in the United States in the 1960s.
High-speed rail began in 1969 with the introduction of the Metroliner
(I must say it doesn't sound all that exciting to me.
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After a bit more head scratching I have to say that historically the answer to Rob's question would be AMTRAK and therefore, more than likely, the mystery train is one of these:
The North Coast Hiawatha
Coast Starlight
Montrealer/Washingtonian
Empire Service
Possibly with a Turboliner engine.
That is it, that is my guess. (what do I win?)
Norm
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you guys are looking at the sillouhette, right?
i see a pilot beam, boiler, maybe even elephant ears...its some kind of steam engine. being US, that rules out some of the more intersting types (Franco-Crosti, Electro-steam, Beyer-Garratm, etc) I'm thinking either the Pennsy S1 6-8-6, the skyline-capped 4-6-4-4 (or whatever it was) of the same road, maybe the NYC S-1 4-8-4, the Jawn Henry, or that big Chessie turbine built for the George Washington.
actually, now that i think about it, it might be the "Yellow Belly" 4-6-4. As for the train, i ain't got no idea...
i see a pilot beam, boiler, maybe even elephant ears...its some kind of steam engine. being US, that rules out some of the more intersting types (Franco-Crosti, Electro-steam, Beyer-Garratm, etc) I'm thinking either the Pennsy S1 6-8-6, the skyline-capped 4-6-4-4 (or whatever it was) of the same road, maybe the NYC S-1 4-8-4, the Jawn Henry, or that big Chessie turbine built for the George Washington.
actually, now that i think about it, it might be the "Yellow Belly" 4-6-4. As for the train, i ain't got no idea...
captainkman
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My friend, the sillouhette has nothing to do with it. The sillouhette is of the TS12 N&W Y6b. It's just the TS12 cover and launcher image. It has nothing to do with the mystery train if you ask me.
Then again Sawyer, you didn't know as you don't have TS12. I'd give you my copy if I could. I hate TS12.
I was hoping for the Flying Scotsman train with Gresley A1 and Teak coaches, but those hopes have been shattered by the word "American".
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ok i can now say this. the last steamer (1) built was in the fifties, i should know this cause i seen this locomotive before. n3v has been on the steam train when they first started thier payware program. so i will be back to show a pic when im done working today. and i do have proof, i just need to find it again. -inprr
Mystery train candidates
I think the suggestion of the Train of Tomorrow has probably got it.
Too bad, because either the California Zephyr (the original WP-DRG-CB&Q one, not the Amtrack knockoff) or the Chicago, Milwaukee, St.Paul and Pacific's Olympian Hiawatha with its gorgeous observation cars would be deserving candidates.
Parts of both survived for years in Canadian service after they were retired in the states. I may be in error, but I believe either California Zephyr equipment or cars built to nearly the same plan survive to this day as ViaRail's Canadian.
I think the suggestion of the Train of Tomorrow has probably got it.
Too bad, because either the California Zephyr (the original WP-DRG-CB&Q one, not the Amtrack knockoff) or the Chicago, Milwaukee, St.Paul and Pacific's Olympian Hiawatha with its gorgeous observation cars would be deserving candidates.
Parts of both survived for years in Canadian service after they were retired in the states. I may be in error, but I believe either California Zephyr equipment or cars built to nearly the same plan survive to this day as ViaRail's Canadian.
masterowner
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I thought of the dome cars too when I first read this thread but based on the scenery I think it was CP's The Canadian.
Which does not invalidate my guess(es). While numerous solutions were proposed to Rob's conundrum in the fifties and sixties, many listed as guesses here, none of them were, in fact, the answer that solved the passenger train dilemma in America. Amtrak did.
I thought steam locomotive production for the US market ended in 1949 therefore it has to be a diesel streamliner.
Having looked at the possibilities the train has to contain early vista dome coaches to attract passengers, therefore my guess would be the early California Zephyr (Silver Lady) that entered service in 1949/50. Check out Wikipedia for Silver Lady otherwise this pulls up Amtraks latter version.
http://calzephyr.railfan.net/
Ken
Having looked at the possibilities the train has to contain early vista dome coaches to attract passengers, therefore my guess would be the early California Zephyr (Silver Lady) that entered service in 1949/50. Check out Wikipedia for Silver Lady otherwise this pulls up Amtraks latter version.
http://calzephyr.railfan.net/
Ken
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masterowner
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All right since nobody has a clue what it is and we are all probably 100% wrong I will just say what I most want in trainz...
It is the Great Northern's Empire Builder!
It is the Great Northern's Empire Builder!
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