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I am hoping it is the Reading Crusader. I mean, we got the Comet, we got a model of the T-1(a locomotive that still has no known top speed), so it looks like Rob is actually paying attention to the roads that are smaller and less well known. (CNJ) Plus the Crusader is the RDG counterpart to the CNJ's Comet.

It basically comes out and says that it is an attempt by railroads to keep passenger revenue. During this time, they would be streamlining stuff to achieve that end. Rob is only making steamers it seems, so that means that it is a streamlined steamer.

I for one am really happy to be getting all of this new steam content.


Also, what is with the mention of the Y6b. We got one in the release of 2012 if you didn't notice.
 
NikkiA said:
I was specifically referring to the 1947 EMD 'E-M' (while it bears a lot of resemblence to a E7, it is 21' longer and thus a different locomotive) hauled consist, so I wasn't correct in any real way.

I was aware that GM reused the 'train of tomorrow' title on the aerotrain, but I was banking on it not really being successful enough to justify modelling it *shrug*
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No cheese for you then. :hehe:

It is an oddity of history that your 1947 Train of Tomorrow actually was far more successful than this later Train of Tomorrow II/Aerotrain. Dome cars were wildly popular while the Aerotrain's requirement that the entire train be turned around spelled it's doom commercially.
 
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jadebullet said:
I am hoping it is the Reading Crusader. I mean, we got the Comet, we got a model of the T-1(a locomotive that still has no known top speed), so it looks like Rob is actually paying attention to the roads that are smaller and less well known. (CNJ) Plus the Crusader is the RDG counterpart to the CNJ's Comet.

It basically comes out and says that it is an attempt by railroads to keep passenger revenue. During this time, they would be streamlining stuff to achieve that end. Rob is only making steamers it seems, so that means that it is a streamlined steamer.

I for one am really happy to be getting all of this new steam content.


Also, what is with the mention of the Y6b. We got one in the release of 2012 if you didn't notice.
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http://www.auran.com/shop/display_product.php?PID=625

Edit: After some debate I've decided not to purchase this. Instead I've bought the Duchess and Comet sets by way of an atta-boy, diesels really don't interest me. I'm a more turn of the century kinda guy.
 
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Great marketing technique, but as always the Aerotrain would never have been in the California Desert, that bugs me to death.
 
masterowner said:
Great marketing technique, but as always the Aerotrain would never have been in the California Desert, that bugs me to death.
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It was in the California desert, It was on the City of Las Vegas, and the San Diegan, the aerotrain failing miserably on both due to it being underpowered and having a not so smooth ride
 
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Okay, enough grumping and grousing. My preorder goes out tonight. Though the Aerotrain may be to railroading what the Spruce Goose was to aviation, I'm looking forward to running it. After all, it's part of the future the way it used to be ... along with flying cars, vacations to the moon, and electricity from nuclear plants too cheap to meter.

There's "Uncle Walt" running the Disneyland Viewliner in 1957, modeled after the Aerotrain. And I found my treasured copy of The Wonder Book of Trains by Norman Carlisle, 1957, with the Aerotrain on its cover, of course.
 
Cool looking train in a Jetson's kind of way!

I love that kind of retro 50's space age look. It makes a change from the usual box on rails look of most American locomotives. I may be tempted to get this one and make a `what if British Rail brought the Aerotrain` session on the ECML! :p

Regards.
CaptEngland
 
505657j said:
It was in the California desert, It was on the City of Las Vegas, and the San Diegan, the aerotrain failing miserably on both due to it being underpowered and having a not so smooth ride
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Remember the railroads were still mostly jointed rail and were built around the older engineering principles. Today I think things would have been different ff they had the welded rail and the track-laying machinery, concrete ties, and other modern inventions, the ride may have been different.

As far as being underpowered, well that's something else. Perhaps if GM had what EMD and Westinghouse have today for hydraulics and traction motors things would be a lot different.

John
 
JCitron said:
Remember the railroads were still mostly jointed rail and were built around the older engineering principles. Today I think things would have been different ff they had the welded rail and the track-laying machinery, concrete ties, and other modern inventions, the ride may have been different.
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A little perhaps, in the same way a modern Pacer feels a bit more comfortable a ride than they did in the 80s on jointed rails...

But the bottom line is that putting bus bodies on a modular, and non-integrated, bogie-less chassis isn't ever going to produce a 'comfortable' train ride at speed. While the UK really learnt this lesson much later than GM/EMD (with the aforementioned Pacers), the fact had been established in many places around the world by 1956.

As far as being underpowered, well that's something else. Perhaps if GM had what EMD and Westinghouse have today for hydraulics and traction motors things would be a lot different.

John
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I dunno, it's not like the SW1200 was the most powerful locomotive that EMD were building at the time, so I'm sure they could have made it a bit better powered if they'd tried. Granted the aerotrain was theoretically higher power than a similar non-american DMU of the same era would have been (eg a 3-car class 101 would generally have 2 power units, so 600HP), but not by a vast amount, and the aerotrain looks to have been a heavier design, although still 'lightweight' by american standards.

GM also appear to have failed to consider why every attempt at this kind of multiple-unit consist around the world has a cab at each end.
 
NikkiA said:
A little perhaps, in the same way a modern Pacer feels a bit more comfortable a ride than they did in the 80s on jointed rails...

But the bottom line is that putting bus bodies on a modular, and non-integrated, bogie-less chassis isn't ever going to produce a 'comfortable' train ride at speed. While the UK really learnt this lesson much later than GM/EMD (with the aforementioned Pacers), the fact had been established in many places around the world by 1956.



I dunno, it's not like the SW1200 was the most powerful locomotive that EMD were building at the time, so I'm sure they could have made it a bit better powered if they'd tried. Granted the aerotrain was theoretically higher power than a similar non-american DMU of the same era would have been (eg a 3-car class 101 would generally have 2 power units, so 600HP), but not by a vast amount, and the aerotrain looks to have been a heavier design, although still 'lightweight' by american standards.

GM also appear to have failed to consider why every attempt at this kind of multiple-unit consist around the world has a cab at each end.
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It could be that GM was on a mission to create something that was relatively low cost for the railroads using existing components such as bus bodies, and the least expensive of the engines. Remember the railroads were hurting and were looking for an inexpensive way to give luxury travel to the passengers and compete with the airlines and new interstate highway system.

They also made the same mistake with this consist that they did with the earlier streamliners. The 1930s era Flying Yankee and it's CB&Q brother. There was that nifty observation car on the end and the engine on one end, and the whole consist had to be turned, so terminals needed big loops for the trains. It's interesting to note that the Boston & Maine North Station had a loop such as this at one time. The tracks existed for years, but I think they're pretty much ripped up now with all the construction in the area.

Everything was heavy in the 1950s including personal automobiles compared to today's standards.

John
 
In my old 2004/2006 files...I found a turboliner in CN livery....done by Pikkabird.

Might be interesting to see if I can get it working in TS12, and see how it compares to the current offering.....

Guess I will order the new one....he who dies with the most toys wins!!!

Regards:

JohnMac
 
What I meant to say in the above post was...I thought that someone in the distant past had released a payware version of the Aerotrain....though perhaps I am mistaken.

I will try to fix the Turboliner by Pikkabird I found...

And I will put in an order for the Aerotrain.

Sorry for the confusion.

Regards:

JohnMac
 
ftldave said:
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Okay, enough grumping and grousing. My preorder goes out tonight. Though the Aerotrain may be to railroading what the Spruce Goose was to aviation, I'm looking forward to running it. After all, it's part of the future the way it used to be ... along with flying cars, vacations to the moon, and electricity from nuclear plants too cheap to meter.

There's "Uncle Walt" running the Disneyland Viewliner in 1957, modeled after the Aerotrain. And I found my treasured copy of The Wonder Book of Trains by Norman Carlisle, 1957, with the Aerotrain on its cover, of course.
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did they build that from a 57 caddy or something? looks as wide as one
 
Imagine my disapointment! The aerotrain. a homely failure. And 1955 at that. The California Zephyr, the Empire Builder, the Super Chief, the Daylights, any one of these would have been more representative of sucessful '50's passenger trains. I am sorry I am not as familliar with East Coast passenger rail or I would have added more named trains to the list. As an American, the aerotrain does not interest me in the least, I will not be a buyer!
 
The Aerotrain is a nice enough looking train. Despite it's prototypical flaws, I suspect it will look good in Trainz.
 
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