Changing Safety Valve Volume Level
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That seems to be the Holy Grail of Trainz. If you find the safety valve sound file, I am willing to be you could sell that info for a kings ransom to all the TS12 steam drivers.
If I knew where it was on my harddrive, I would rip it to pieces bit by bit, laughing while I did it...........Gandalf0444
FVRR member
I will give you guys a hint...it is in the data.ja.
Well I guess that narrows it down better than, it is somewhere in the TS12 folder...
hmmm. So what unpacks .ja files then?
I know it will make the game "unpatchable", but I figure that if I unpack it - drop the volume on that wav, then when (if) an update comes out I remove my mod and reinstate the original data.ja, no blood, no foul. I would just then have to re-mod the updated game is all....
I know it will make the game "unpatchable", but I figure that if I unpack it - drop the volume on that wav, then when (if) an update comes out I remove my mod and reinstate the original data.ja, no blood, no foul. I would just then have to re-mod the updated game is all....
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Exactly the method I use, there are quite a few programs that can.
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Exactly why I haven't said it!
I have found that a lot of sound files are either annoyingly loud, or annoyingly soft. My solution is to start up CMP, open the asset for edit, and then go to the edit folder and run something like Audacity (free) against it. Do a mass volume change (up or down) and then store it back. If the asset is a built-in, CMP will ask you if you want to overwrite a built-in. I just say 'yes' and do it. Now, when the sound plays, it is much more soothing.
Bill
Bill
I wonder if there is a way to bribe the programmers to delete the Phhhtttt . sound file which is around 100 db, thinking we could take up a collection to come up with the proper amount.
ZecMurphy
Community Assistant
Hi All
We do not support, nor recommend, editing the '.ja' files. In regards to the safety valves, these are relatively quiet compared to the prototype, and again if you are driving and firing appropriately, you should be able to limit these. This includes adjusting your driving style over different terrain.
We do aim to have our steam physics as close to the prototype as possible, and part of this the safety valves, including the volume. However, it does rely on correct driving/firing techniques, along with a correctly made Enginespec (which I can confirm, the DLC packs do run enginespecs that can be operated correctly).
Regards
We do not support, nor recommend, editing the '.ja' files. In regards to the safety valves, these are relatively quiet compared to the prototype, and again if you are driving and firing appropriately, you should be able to limit these. This includes adjusting your driving style over different terrain.
We do aim to have our steam physics as close to the prototype as possible, and part of this the safety valves, including the volume. However, it does rely on correct driving/firing techniques, along with a correctly made Enginespec (which I can confirm, the DLC packs do run enginespecs that can be operated correctly).
Regards
Zec, I would have to disagree with you. We have discussed this before, but so far I have gotten information that is basically useless. The safety valves constantly go off, no matter what you do. I have to listen to this really annoying noise for many minutes, until I burn the coal down to sometimes as low as 35% before it quits. This happens with locomotives that I have purchased from your company, as well as many steam locos that are made by people like Bill Neal, so it is not an issue with the loco. The safety valve operation is a bug, plain and simple. You can deny it, act like the operator of the steam loco doesn't have the correct technique, or any other excuse you can come up with, but none of these excuses make any sense. How come I pass DLC locos from your website , driven by AI drivers that are hissing and spitting from their safety valves, loud enough to wake up the neighbors as they roll by?
You would have alot more credibility if you admitted that this is very frequent complaint with folks that drive steam locos in TS12. There are numerous threads on this topic both on these forums, and on other site forums. So either we are all crazy or stupid, or this issue needs to be fixed. Sweeping it under the rug, or sticking one's head in the sand, isn't going to make it go away.
If you are so sure that you are right and we are all wrong, post instructions for one of your Locos like the PRR1, or the Blue Comet, with step by step instructions on how to drive this loco and not have the safety valve constantly go off, right from the start. We need a step by step procedure. Water levels, coal levels, cutoff settings, regulator settings, blower settings, and then we can all try these setting and report back on how well they work, if at all.
Many people would be happy to take this safety valve wave file and delete it, so they could happily drive a steam loco and enjoy that experience without the constant annoying racket that the safety valve noise produces, which ruins the entire experience of driving steam . According to some statements you have made, this is not an option that Auran would consider. May I ask why? Is it that you would hope that people just give up on the steam locos altogether , and just drive diesels, so that the problem would go away? You have a problem that generates many complaints, and you offer no solution, I don't get it?? Not a good way to do business, and I don't need a lecture about my lack of skill in driving a steam loco in this simulator. I have tried fixing this problem for months. I finally found an engine spec that works on some of my locos that was designed specifically to get rid of this infernal noise of the safety valve. It is leaps and bounds better than 95% of the steam locos that I try, to the point where the only loco I drive now has that engine spec. Any other loco including the ones I purchased from N3V, I use for AI, so I don't have to hear the noise unless I am passing one. https://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=235938
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Ok. on the subject of safety valves. Engine specs can be and have been made so that cab driving is pretty cloes to the real thing. If you adjust the water in the boiler and the coal in the fire as they should be you can cab drive most locos without the safetys blowing except when comming to a stop or going down an incline. An engine spec can also be made so that the safetys will not blow while in DCC mode, but the big problem is you can't make one engine spec perform correctly in both modes. There is one thing you can do in DCC mode, not to stop the safetys from blowing, but to make them less annoying.
The solution for this is to increase the flow rate of the lowpressure valve. The bigger the flow rate the quieter it will be, but make it too big and you will run out of steam quite quickly.
Cheers,
Bill69
The solution for this is to increase the flow rate of the lowpressure valve. The bigger the flow rate the quieter it will be, but make it too big and you will run out of steam quite quickly.
Cheers,
Bill69