Lynn_Forster
New member
What do you people do when ya's run out of ideas or get burnt out on trainz......i feel like i have been burnt out and am looking for some inspiration...
Dan
Dan
Burnt out.
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i had burn out last year
for me i just i didn't even go back to route building for months,i did what the game is ment for and drove trains,you'll know when you get motivated again
if any thing i got more inspired when i got over it
cheers,
patchy
motorbreath
Earth Rocker
If you don't like the "stay away from Trainz" suggestions, make a model of an era or place you normally wouldn't do. Experiment. I love mostly 20's to 50's era stuff, but I burn out and model modern stuff sometimes, or NG. When all else fails, I play my PC version of Grand Theft Auto IV with my own radio station and drive through a city that looks better than anything I could do in Trainz and kill every one with Hank III and Black Sabbath making my ears bleed.
Screenshots!
Visit the screenshots section of the forum and browse through the various posts at random. I did that 2-3 days ago, and that got me fired up plenty. I can't normally spend much time in surveyor, as i find it hard to get motivated. I took a visit to the Aussie Screenshots thread, and browsed through several years of posts, viewing the screenie's and reading the comments, and that inspired and motivated me.
For the last few days i've been putting in serious time in surveyor, and it's looking better than previous efforts, which generally fizz out and get deleted after only several hours of work. I even felt happy enough with the efforts to post a few shots of my own.
Revisiting the screenie's forum, and viewing peoples hard work, and the comments that these attract, is keeping me motivated, as well as giving me a few ideas for my own route.
Hope this helps, and gets you fired up again.
Matt.
Visit the screenshots section of the forum and browse through the various posts at random. I did that 2-3 days ago, and that got me fired up plenty. I can't normally spend much time in surveyor, as i find it hard to get motivated. I took a visit to the Aussie Screenshots thread, and browsed through several years of posts, viewing the screenie's and reading the comments, and that inspired and motivated me.
For the last few days i've been putting in serious time in surveyor, and it's looking better than previous efforts, which generally fizz out and get deleted after only several hours of work. I even felt happy enough with the efforts to post a few shots of my own.
Revisiting the screenie's forum, and viewing peoples hard work, and the comments that these attract, is keeping me motivated, as well as giving me a few ideas for my own route.
Hope this helps, and gets you fired up again.
Matt.
Yes! the screenshots always motivate.
A few things I can mention, that goes for most hobbies...
1. find someone with same interest, it makes it FUN to collaborate and chat about it.
2. Don't sit and do the same thing, every day for weeks, have many options. I personally split time at my pc between flight sims, trainz, few other games and 3D modelling (with the opensource Blender application).
3. visit the forums often, to keep in touch and keep the mind fresh.
For now, take a small break, install a boat sim, or play some other games, or start designing a model town on paper or something.
Or better, write some tuts or manuals for the community
A few things I can mention, that goes for most hobbies...
1. find someone with same interest, it makes it FUN to collaborate and chat about it.
2. Don't sit and do the same thing, every day for weeks, have many options. I personally split time at my pc between flight sims, trainz, few other games and 3D modelling (with the opensource Blender application).
3. visit the forums often, to keep in touch and keep the mind fresh.
For now, take a small break, install a boat sim, or play some other games, or start designing a model town on paper or something.
Or better, write some tuts or manuals for the community
Yes! the screenshots always motivate.
A few things I can mention, that goes for most hobbies...
1. find someone with same interest, it makes it FUN to collaborate and chat about it.
2. Don't sit and do the same thing, every day for weeks, have many options. I personally split time at my pc between flight sims, trainz, few other games and 3D modelling (with the opensource Blender application).
3. visit the forums often, to keep in touch and keep the mind fresh.
For now, take a small break, install a boat sim, or play some other games, or start designing a model town on paper or something.
Or better, write some tuts or manuals for the community
Marlonza, glad that you agree. You also have a number of valid points, that are, as you say, applicable to most, if not all, hobbies. I'd like to add to that with one of my own, if i may.
(i.) START SMALL! The more knowledgeable people on this forum will advocate this principle, till the day they die (Hopefully not too soon, i still need your help/advice:hehe:.) Starting small gives you the ability to get your creations near perfect, by making the work more manageable, especially if only one person is involved in the project.
On reflection, my problem may stem from the fact that i attempt to start with too large an area in which to work. That can make work progress slowly, which, in turn, can lead to motivation/ideas drying up, which halts progress and can lead to the scrapping of painstaking labor.
If that doesn't work, like marlonza suggested, write a tutorial or two. People are crying out for them, especially with regards to surveyor.
Cheers,
Matt.
Stationbeem
Over 60's Club
Have a look at the video section or the screenshot thread. See if that gives you some inspiration. Or make a video your self.
cascaderailroad
New member
I posted some suggestions in your other thread: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=56261
I too have been quite burnt out by all choices of chunky mesh vs high detail track, and trying to figure exactly what type I want to use on my 300 miles of RR main and branchlines.
I too have been quite burnt out by all choices of chunky mesh vs high detail track, and trying to figure exactly what type I want to use on my 300 miles of RR main and branchlines.
I pull up one of Fishlips' pre-done terrains and start browsing through the landscape, looking for ideas. Nothing says you have to replicate the rail lines, etc. already there as HOG textures. It's a lot like being commissioned to engineer a rail line through territory that's never seen a train, especially if you're not already personally familiar with the area.
--Lamont
--Lamont
Hi Dan,
my way:
TC3, TS2010. Railworks 2010 or a game without trains, I own FSX (and many other games).
regards
Wol_HH
This has already came up on thread discussion previously and I can understand the feeling so again will put my twopence wqorth in!
I decided to build the whole of Glasgow's former tram system (yet to be uploaded!) and covers over 245 boards. Due to the size and being a reproduction of what disappeared in 1962 I wanted to ensure every line was where it had been and so on. Being a city, suburbs and so on it needed even more resolution. I never expected to do the whole city but keep going on a bit and doing more and more. There were times I felt I had bitten off too much and would leave it then go back again and hammer away then get put off and another break and so it went on.It eventually spread over more than two years but because of my great love of what was lost (second biggest outside London) and my joy as a wee boy who fell in love with trams I wouldn't give up.
However even with my love of the item it would be so, so easy when getting tired and have breaks just not to go back to it but unfinished things don't go down well with me so thought "will just do this area of the city" but that always left another bit undone. Obviously the breaks are the most decisive bits and you have to be able to have the stamina to get by them. This is a personal thing of course built now I have a re-creation of a big tramway that once spread out from this city and is a kind of living, working museum of a what in real life had been a fantastic system.
And now I have embarked on my second project building the whole of what is left of the rail system across in Ulster. Yet another challenge as I live in Glasgow but I have a determined streak! So it is an individual thing and there can be no set answer as getting over the burn out or not doing so are reflections on each of us as humans.
I decided to build the whole of Glasgow's former tram system (yet to be uploaded!) and covers over 245 boards. Due to the size and being a reproduction of what disappeared in 1962 I wanted to ensure every line was where it had been and so on. Being a city, suburbs and so on it needed even more resolution. I never expected to do the whole city but keep going on a bit and doing more and more. There were times I felt I had bitten off too much and would leave it then go back again and hammer away then get put off and another break and so it went on.It eventually spread over more than two years but because of my great love of what was lost (second biggest outside London) and my joy as a wee boy who fell in love with trams I wouldn't give up.
However even with my love of the item it would be so, so easy when getting tired and have breaks just not to go back to it but unfinished things don't go down well with me so thought "will just do this area of the city" but that always left another bit undone. Obviously the breaks are the most decisive bits and you have to be able to have the stamina to get by them. This is a personal thing of course built now I have a re-creation of a big tramway that once spread out from this city and is a kind of living, working museum of a what in real life had been a fantastic system.
And now I have embarked on my second project building the whole of what is left of the rail system across in Ulster. Yet another challenge as I live in Glasgow but I have a determined streak! So it is an individual thing and there can be no set answer as getting over the burn out or not doing so are reflections on each of us as humans.
The best advice is what actually *not* to do...
Don't go running across to Railworks or MSTS thinking it might be better, because generally it isn't.
Don't torment yourself loading up Google Street View and wondering how on earth you're going to get all that detail in your route. Optimise, optimise, optimise.
If you're wavering halfway through a project, don't let yourself get distracted by a future one as that's a sure shortcut to the existing one becoming vapourware.
On the "do's" GTA San Andreas or GTA IV definitely on the recommended list. Don't forget in GTA IV you can actually ride the subway and Rockstar really did quite a convincing little mini-trainsim albeit not driveable.
Don't go running across to Railworks or MSTS thinking it might be better, because generally it isn't.
Don't torment yourself loading up Google Street View and wondering how on earth you're going to get all that detail in your route. Optimise, optimise, optimise.
If you're wavering halfway through a project, don't let yourself get distracted by a future one as that's a sure shortcut to the existing one becoming vapourware.
On the "do's" GTA San Andreas or GTA IV definitely on the recommended list. Don't forget in GTA IV you can actually ride the subway and Rockstar really did quite a convincing little mini-trainsim albeit not driveable.
Subway/elevated rail was my favorite choice of transport until I inlocked the third island. Pity there's no transit system of any kind in Alderney.
ray_whiley
Active member
In fact there seems to be a railway on Alderney (Channel Islands) - although I suspect this is not the Alderney you mean!
It's not much of a route, just 870 metres long (originally 1430 metres and built to carry stone), preserved and run by a society - see http://www.alderneyrailway.com/history.htm
I came across this a few weeks back when I was looking at the ex-London Underground stock used on the Isle of Wight. Originally two 1938-stock cars were used (1987) drawn by diesel loco D100 Elizabeth; these have been replaced by two 1959 aluminium cars which the railway hopes will better survive the salt air.
The site has photos of Braye Road station, the Breakwater terminus, and Elizabeth; a full history; the Easter to September timetable etc. and is obviously a tourist attraction. In Trainz it could be done in just over one baseboard!
Ray
It's not much of a route, just 870 metres long (originally 1430 metres and built to carry stone), preserved and run by a society - see http://www.alderneyrailway.com/history.htm
I came across this a few weeks back when I was looking at the ex-London Underground stock used on the Isle of Wight. Originally two 1938-stock cars were used (1987) drawn by diesel loco D100 Elizabeth; these have been replaced by two 1959 aluminium cars which the railway hopes will better survive the salt air.
The site has photos of Braye Road station, the Breakwater terminus, and Elizabeth; a full history; the Easter to September timetable etc. and is obviously a tourist attraction. In Trainz it could be done in just over one baseboard!
Ray
You are so right marlonza. Being historical and emotive it is a definitive encourager. Glasgwegians had a great love affair with their tramway and on the final day when a fleet of vehicles trundled round the city in a convoy it is estimated that 250,000 people (quarter of the then population of Glasgow in 1962) came out in atrocious wet weather to say farewell. School trips, Sunday School trips and even house moving by tram were common.This has been my tribute to a remarkable network that ran right out into country areas and not just the suburbs. Fans used to come to Glasgow pre-1062 because of the place of Glasgow's trams in UK history.
As I said if you have a special interest it will give you the oomph to continue. It is the gaps in between building that are the dangerous bits! I never ever thought I would end up doing everything and if you visit my site there are sketch maps of each part of the city and a copy of a City Council tram map. I just determined there should be something done to remember what was lost. When it does go up for tram fans on Trainz it will be because it was a great labour of love for me from the first time I seen it as a toddler onwards.
Perseverance is not a thing in everyone but if you have a strong feeling on something you will get to stick to it. I had never tried sim building and my first attempt has been a mammoth task and now it's Ulster's turn!
As I said if you have a special interest it will give you the oomph to continue. It is the gaps in between building that are the dangerous bits! I never ever thought I would end up doing everything and if you visit my site there are sketch maps of each part of the city and a copy of a City Council tram map. I just determined there should be something done to remember what was lost. When it does go up for tram fans on Trainz it will be because it was a great labour of love for me from the first time I seen it as a toddler onwards.
Perseverance is not a thing in everyone but if you have a strong feeling on something you will get to stick to it. I had never tried sim building and my first attempt has been a mammoth task and now it's Ulster's turn!
Burt?...Forkable?....Nah...!
We all do this...we spend hundreds of hours on this ability to recreate a habitat forever & run the wheels off a train...
Find your core "attraction" of railroading, locomotives, trains,etc.
Do your research on the Internet to your advantage to get an idea, a reskin, a route you really wish to run...a locomotive you have seen...
Visit this Thread...
Welcome to the world of Trainz....
We all do this...we spend hundreds of hours on this ability to recreate a habitat forever & run the wheels off a train...Find your core "attraction" of railroading, locomotives, trains,etc.
Do your research on the Internet to your advantage to get an idea, a reskin, a route you really wish to run...a locomotive you have seen...
Visit this Thread...
Welcome to the world of Trainz....
The Alderney I am referring to is the leftmost island on this map.
However, the link you posted looks quite interesting.
Cheers,
[CKT]