Browsing the DLS?

nicky9499

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Okay sounds brainless I know.

Not counting yesterday when I first logged into the DLS (and overcame my phobia of DLS content :o), I don't know if it's me or something, but browsing for content is rather difficult. It's setup in a way if you know the item's kuid or the author's kuid or something you can get it very easily. However I can't seem to randomly browse through content or sort by downloads and popularity.

Maybe it's just silly me not knowing how to use the DLS, in which case, I ask for your guidance.

Cheerio,
Nicholas.
 
Buy a copy of TRS2006 or any later version with Content Mangager and you can view kuids in the DLS, sorted in a variety of ways.

Bob
 
I have 2006 and CMP. The only download related thing I see is the panel on the top right hand corner which keeps saying 'idle'. No search button or anything of the like.

Cheerio,
Nicholaas.
 
I read somewhere that Auran is planning a web site where you can view assets in a more relaxed way. I think it will have better or larger thumbnails or even multiple images. I can't remember where I read it and I don't know when it will happen. It may only be for TRS 2009 stuff as its released also.
 
Hello Nicky, if you look at the main section of CMP, at the top it says Object ( text - thumbnail ), within this section look for a tab that says Download Station, click on that and it'll bring up everything that is available to download and a little box against each item that says DS. If you click on the bar above. where it says type, status, name, kuid number, etc, click on type and it will put everything into categories for you, so you'll have all your buildings/structures, locomotives and rolling stock, flora, textures, together.....
The only problem when scrolling thru what is available, is that it doesn't necesarily tell you which version of Trainz the asset was built for, if you click on the left hand side section that says Object - details, you can see a picture of the item concerned and a brief description of the asset.

Post back here if you have any further questions......

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.
 
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Another option, if you haven't already tried, is on the DLS web page. Click any of the square icons, Locos, Bogeys, Rolling Stock etc. (these are located right above where you put your tick/check marks for which version you wish to see included in the search results).

You will be able to see any text or pictures that the author decided to include in their asset, plus the Trainz version required to use the item.

Another way I have used it receltly was to search for objects with either "winter" or "snow" associated with them. This method makes an assumption that the author used these keywords in their asset before they uploaded them.

I tried this snow/winter search 2 times, once with snow or winter in the "Description" and once with snow or winter in the "Title" and left "All" on the "Category" for it to ferret out ANY items so listed.
Note: Title and Description are the radio buttons below where you enter your search text.

One of the downsides of the DLS listings is that the author may have used an incorrect category or a category which seems rather odd, such as a building listed under track.

I Hope one of the many ways described finds you what you want.:)

Regrds, And Happy New Year
Lenny
 
There are probably other ways to implement this and hopefully someone at Auran can work it out. Their original design worked well for the early versions of Trainz, but we've since outgrown this design except for packages which I'll detail below. TRS2006 and above has helped somewhat with CMP and CM2 however this is still an awkward, slow, and still sometimes an overpowering proces.

One of the biggest problems is with how DLS handles and displays the uploaded content. Instead of keeping sub-packages in groups, it displays each individual item that is in the package. As a result a gazillion little road bits, or even hundreds of trees, that have been uploaded by the content creators in packages, get displayed as individual items.

When one of these individual package-members gets clicked on, it can be downloaded seperately (no problem), but it is alo listed as part of the package along with the other members of the package in the description. When the package is opened, the same individual items are listed again.

I've complained about this before over the past 5 years. It would be nice if at some point we can revise the DLS. I am not a programmer so again I'll sit on the sides and make complicated suggestions. ;)

The DLS should be laid out more in a tree-like fashion like a file manager such as Windows Explorer for example. The main category is at the top i.e. Buildings. which includes interactive industries. This could be sub-categorized again so that interactive objects are seperate from placed objects such as houses and commercial buildings.

Keeping this tree design in mind, packages should have a plus-sign next to them. If someone needs to display the contents of a package, they'd click on the plus.

Downloading directly off of the 'revised' DLS could be simple. If something is seen, click on it and send it to the Dowload Helper in the normal fashion. Packages could work a similar fashion. The complete package could easily be downloaded by clicking on a download package button instead of the plus-sign.

This revised interface would make browsing online for content a lot easier. For one thing, pages upon pages of wasted space wouldn't be taken up by individual package members. The last time I browsed, shortly before Christmas, there over 10 pages of trackside objects that all belonged to packages of German catenary components. I didn't need these, nor was I interested in them, and spent close to an hour bypassing the pages until I found what I was interested in. By arranging these individual items in a closed package, the display would have been less cluttered and the process would have been a lot faster.

This is something to think about hopefully for the new DLS 200x whenever that comes out. Does anyone else have some ideas on this?

John
 
John, I agree with your suggestions. maybe the DLS also needs to be split into a few different databases on different servers to speed things up a little. I don't go there often, but I find it very confusing. People need to see images of what they want, not a heap of mumbo jumbo which going by what I'm reading here, most of us don't understand.

I think Amazon is a good example of how the DLS could be run. It would however probably take more staff to maintain that Auran may like to make available. In the Amazon example (Music wise, they list the album which you can purchase as a whole, then all the individual songs, which you can also purchase. Everything is tidy, plenty of graphics and sound files to boot. If packages and individual items were presented the same way, it would be easy for you to skip those ten pages.

BTW. I unofficially opened my new web site today and it's search and tree structure are pretty powerful also. The site's in beta so no apologies for any problems. The link is below.
 
Hi guys. Thanks for the many replies.

Actually, we don't need anything complicated. Just take a glance at www.train-sim.com's file library. Sure, the website's not the prettiest in the world, but the way the file library is laid out makes it really easy to browse, which I do believe that's what many do when searching for excellent new content with nothing particular in mind.

Please, do take a look. I've had much pleasure using it myself.

Cheerio,
Nicholas.
 
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