Bridges: A Public Service Announcement

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Alternate title: if you can read, you can bridge.

I've seen thousands of realistic screenshots since I've been involved with this game. Bridges are a popular subject, just as they are in real life photography. However, a significant percentage of in-game bridges seem to suffer from one of two problems: they are overbuilt (wasteful and inefficient), or they would fall down because of insufficient support. I am a mechanical engineering student, not a civil engineer, and I don't claim to be anything more than a casual observer of bridges. I just want to offer some tips to make your bridges better. I am going to cover the placement of bridge piers (the supports that go in the middle) and abutments (supports that go at the ends); wooden trestles typically have everything attached so I am not going to cover those.

Don't take these as absolute rules; you can probably find exceptions to everything here. However, unless you have a picture of a prototype that does not abide by these rules, please do not break them. They are absolutes unless proven otherwise.


Small girder bridges do not need intermediate supports. Good abutment placement is the only key. A real abutment supports the bridge from underneath, rather than from the end as most in-game abutments. The exception is the bridge in my first three shots, which I made specifically to avoid this problem.

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Some larger girder bridges have definite ends of spans (segments.) Sometimes it is obvious, like rounded corners on the ends of spans, other times it is less obvious, like in this case. The more closely spaced ribs signify the end of a span.

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Truss bridges are similar; a single truss does not need support in the middle. Please be careful when placing abutments that they do not intersect with the bridge structure. A bridge never has its ends embedded in concrete.

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Like girder bridges, longer truss bridges only need support under the ends of spans.

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Some bridges do not have a well-defined span length. In those cases, use your best judgment. Place your intended rolling stock on the bridge and ask yourself, "Could this hold that load?"

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Please let me know if this was helpful, if you have any questions, if you want to see more, etc. Post screenshots here if you have a question, or if you want to show off a bridge that you improved or constructed. Thanks for reading, and happy bridging!
 
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This is a very useful PSA, it's gotta be said. I have some better ideas for my bridges now...
Thanks for taking the time to build this!

SM
 
VERY informational! Really appreciate the time to explain this, there's a lot here I never knew, and it really helps to know. Thanks for posting! (And as a side note, those bridges in the first shots are looking fantastic!)
 
Good Thread! I see lots of pics that get ruined with bridges that are off, either not enough support or in the wrong places. Another thing I see done is people extending the bridges into the abutments to far. So again good thread and I agree with Conrail45 those bridges of yours look great!
 
I too do not like poorly represented bridges! Unfortunately, we need more abutments that allow us to properly model bridges - your bridge, pier, and abutments look great!
 
To actually support bridges from below requires a LOT of different abutments and piers. I've been trying to work out a good way to consolidate them while still allowing for needed variety.
 
An interesting post. But it might be more useful if you put it into a page in the N3V WiKi. Too often really good advice is posted in the forums but is lost in the noise. If you put it in the How/Tos section of the WiKi then potential bridge builders might actually see it.
 
Can you do the same thing for road-bridges? I find this to be really helpful, and I think it would be as helpful to have one covering roads as well. And what happens if we have a rail-bridge crossing a canyon or gorge?
 
An interesting post. But it might be more useful if you put it into a page in the N3V WiKi. Too often really good advice is posted in the forums but is lost in the noise. If you put it in the How/Tos section of the WiKi then potential bridge builders might actually see it.

A good idea. I'll have to do that.
 
Can you do the same thing for road-bridges? I find this to be really helpful, and I think it would be as helpful to have one covering roads as well. And what happens if we have a rail-bridge crossing a canyon or gorge?

The same applies for road bridges as above. Any concrete bridge is going to follow the same rules as girder bridges- it needs to have support under the joints. If the model doesn't have joints, use your best judgment. A bridge crossing something deep will have big supports, like this:

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As you can see, they often sit under smaller, shorter spans. Makes sense, because a shorter span doesn't need to support as much weight, because you can't fit as much weight on top of it. The same goes as other girder bridges, just make sure your joints are supported. In this case, each tower supports two joints- between a larger and smaller span on each side.
 
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