Big Bertha Build - Main Body Texture - 1st Version

captainkman;bt752 said:
Alright. I was just curious. I thought it might not fit.

And I don't mind if the brake wasn't animated. I didn't suggest it anyway. Or at least not intentionally.

I'll try to get the smoke effect video to you soon. It's too big to attach to an email.

If I may suggest an enginesound, I think <kuid2:81997:53009:2> (Engine Sound 2 cyl loco 09) would go very nicely, it's nice and deep.
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OK, I'll check it out.

FOR Kieran ONLY!!!

Would you like a very early CDP of BB and her tender? It will be very rough but you could use it for playing with enginespecs, sounds, etc. The materials, textures etc are experimental and, in my opinion, not suitable for reskinning. If you are interested I will have to create a rudimentary cab but it will have no controls, dials etc.
 
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Oh yes please! I wanted to ask if I could beta test, but I thought requesting the loco was enough!

I'll just tweak smoke and sounds, etc, and send you some pictures and videos of the loco in action, and send you the config files if you like the alterations.

And when it's ready, I can host some videos of it on my YouTube account, for you to link here. But I understand that it will be a while.

Kieran.

P.S. I'm in a TTTE mood, so here's a quote: "Hurrah!" cried Henry, "That will be lovely!"
 
Good! It will take 2-3 days to add the temporary cab interior and supply enough of the tender to make it worthwhile. I will also add some smoke attachment points as you will need those if you want to play with them. But, as a reminder, the completion date is a long way off yet.

I have done the animation for the water filler cap in the tender but, from a quick investigation, I will need a script to make it work in game.

ps - I did try the engine sound but it sounded a bit light for the loco. Currently, I prefer the sound from one of the GWR Castle Class by Skipper1945.

Cheers

Paul
 
Ok, I thought so. Don't worry about the sound, just focus on the Beta, and I'll get it working. I've been doing this type of thing for a while now.

Can I please have the name and location of the smoke attachments too?

Kman.
 
captainkman;bt764 said:
Ok, I thought so. Don't worry about the sound, just focus on the Beta, and I'll get it working. I've been doing this type of thing for a while now.

Can I please have the name and location of the smoke attachments too?

Kman.
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I haven't done them yet but when I send you the cdp I will include a list and locations. Although you can always view them with PEV's TrainzMeshViewer.

I'll post a new blog entry on the tender sometime this week. The only meshes left to make are the brakes, guardirons and the tender cab wind deflectors. Perhaps I'll add a shovel and a couple of storage boxes.

I also have to do the coal animation but I can re-use what I did for my 54xx loco with some editing.
 
I'm not sure how much help this will be, but I noticed you were talking about the engine sound: I found two videos, one that has footage of Bertha banking a train; the other, after the song, has an audio clip of Bertha banking too. The old audio doesn't seem to have much in the way of low frequencies, but it gives an idea of what she should sound like. You might have seen them already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja1gPyIszqc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7c2X3x7aoI

What I do find odd, is that in the second of those two videos, the painting of Bertha used as the background for the video shows her as being green. Probably just 'artistic license'.
 
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Hi,

Yes, I believe that we have seen both of those already. I might try making an enginesound with the recording after the song, but it might take a while to adjust to different RPM speeds.

Kman.
 
Though I did play the song a while back I didn't recall the soundtrack at the end. Sometimes I wonder how valid those recordings are. There appears to be a slightly different beat but I'm no expert on steam noises.

I never liked the image (painting?) and have not used it as a reference. Both safetys venting and the amount of soot coming from the funnel suggests she is about to explode. And, yes, I doubt she was ever green.

The other thing of note is that it is showing the right hand side and there is no evidence of the rather ugly reverser rod. This is a problem for me as I haven't included it in the mesh. Some pictures show her with it and others without.
 
pcas1986;bt775 said:
The other thing of note is that it is showing the right hand side and there is no evidence of the rather ugly reverser rod. This is a problem for me as I haven't included it in the mesh. Some pictures show her with it and others without.
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Here's proof of the reverser rod:

 
Yes, its definitely there in BR days but check the photo at this site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MR_0-10-0_Lickey_Banker which looks like Big Bertha in MR livery. She has the 2290 number and the crest is visible on the cab but no visible reverser rod.

So, I am inclined to leave it out for the LMS version and include it for the BR version. I have to change the safety valves anyway.

Paul
 
Ok. Maybe she was converted from left-hand drive to right-hand drive? If you can find any pictures of the reverser on the left, then that would support my theory.
 
I can't find any pictures of her with a reverser rod on her left side, but I do have some with and some without on the right side.

When under her original 2290 number, I have picture evidence that the reverser rod was not present on either side.

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But under her later LMS number 22290 the rod appears, only on the right side.

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22290BromsgroveSouth.jpg


The same applies to images of her under 58100

Did she undergo an overhaul when she was renumbered perhaps? Only with her being one of a kind, perhaps they found it easier to conduct some sort of repair/upgrade to the system by moving the rod to its new position.
 
Yes, its rather curious. There must have been some changes after Midland Railway incorporated into LMS. Apparently BB had two boilers with one kept as a spare to reduce "down time" during overhauls. Perhaps whatever arrangement was in place before was too difficult to maintain. The Ian Beattie drawing I am using does show the position of the rod.

So I am still wondering how the reversing gear was manipulated before the outside rod was introduced. Here is a picture of how I modelled the actuating arms up front. This part is inanimate but the "lifting arm" (my term) which attaches to this part moves back and forth with the Walschaerts gear.

reversing_gear.jpg
 
Perhaps it was underneath the boiler, between the frames, above the axles. Here's an attempt at a simple diagram of what I mean.

Before:

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|_______________/

After:

|_______________
_______________/

<-Cab end / Piston end->

If it was something like that, then if it became damaged or bent it'd be more of a pain to repair.
 
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Probably. None of the photos I have show that level of detail. I got some really good pictures of the internal crossover arrangements for the inner pistons and cylinders. I haven't included any of it because it cannot be seen except if you are directly in front and at track level. In the model the wheels don't even have a axle. Something I probably should add.
 
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