Aussie Streetcar in the US

magickmaker

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This just in. A former Melbourne streetcar is now plying the tracks in an experimental line. If it turns out well, the service is expected to expand, but here you go.

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Here's more on the service. http://www.lightrailnow.org/news/n_newslog2008q4.htm#SAV_20081220
 
This just in. A former Melbourne streetcar is now plying the tracks in an experimental line.[/url]
Now, now Magicmaker, Australian "streetcars" are trams/light rail vehicles, or simply trams!

It's a W5 class tram (as shown W5-756).

I do have a opinion, but due to other reasons, won't publish just yet.

PS: Hey wait a minute, it's not authentic enough if the power doesn't come from overhead wires! And I can't tell if their one or two poles. Before pantographs were installed on most of them, they had two trolley poles.
 
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It won't be the first Aussie one in the USA

I believe the streetcar running on the waterfront line in Seatle is from Melbourne originally.
 
I believe the streetcar running on the waterfront line in Seatle is from Melbourne originally.

Yes it is. But sadly, that streetcar no longer runs. When I was in Seattle two months ago the tracks were blocked by bus stops that were created on the tracks.
 
The article explains that the tram has been converted to run using an onboard bio-diesel powered generator, but that full overhead line is in their long-term plans.

Sounds like a good step in the right direction...

Paul
 
Yeah, the Seattle Waterfront Trolley hasn't run in a few years owning to the fact that they don't have sheds for them anymore. If you go to the new sculpture park, that's where the shed was. They haven't run them since November 2005, as they're currently stored in a Metro Transit warehouse.

They're still bickering about the new shed, from what I hear. Mayor Greg Nickels wants to replace them with modern trolleys on First Ave., using the historic trolleys for special occasions. Plus, with work on the Alaskan Way Viaduct about to start, which they run right next to, it seems that they won't be back until 2018.

It's sad, as I have many good memories on those trolleys, like getting to the aquarium via the Seattle Monorail, Bus Tunnel, then the Waterfront Trolleys. The fact that Nickels might be gone when election time rolls around makes me hopeful that route 99 will be back in operation again. Well, at some point at least...:(

Oh, and here's where I looked to get some information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfront_Streetcar - A good starting place

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004341603_streetcar11m.html -From last year, about the delay.

http://transit.metrokc.gov/am/vehicles/wfsc.html
http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/wfsc/waterfront_streetcar.html -Metro Transit's own pages on the line and trolleys.

Mike
 
Couple notes, she's got dual poles, the current propulsion system is temporary, and expansion has already begun in the form of rebuilding of tracks that lead away into the city.

The River Street Line is being extended to the city's Roundhouse Museum and Visitor Center, provided that Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard could have new streetcar tracks laid along it.Other new lines have been planned, which most likely will run on abandoned railroad tracks throughout the city, such as on Frahm Street. While the River Street Line's streetcar operates currently operates on a biodiesel fueled internal combustion engine, the future lines will be electrified by overhead catenary. Either replica or vintage streetcars could be used for the future extensions. The restoration of Birney Safety Car #656, a single truck streetcar, is also planned.

http://cms.images.morris.com/savannah/mdControlled/cms/2009/02/03/384517822.jpg

Easier for me to link it.
 
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Magicmaker, can you reduce the size and dimensions of that picture, that I half saw, as it's stalling my computer, and resorting to scrolling side ways, even in 1024x768 mode. All I can see at the moment is half the picture, and the some of the writing.
 
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There's a Melbourne W2 class streetcar in Chisholm Minnesota. It runs on a short line at the Minnesota Discovery Center (AKA Ironworld). The line models the use of trolley cars that moved miners between the towns and the iron mines on the Missabe and Vermillion Ranges.
Here's a pic: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?43772
 
This line was actually in last months model railroader (maybe a few more months back). It was stated that "model railroaders could find a prototype for everything" inculding running a trolley line without overhead wires

Hope the line turns out well, its always nice to see some trolleys being put into service
 
I read somewhere just recently that Melbourne will be retiring all these trams from service over the next few months. They will continue to run the red restaurant tram and the free city loop services for tourists, but the death knell came when too many people complained about the difficulty of embarking and disembarking because of the steep steps. If that wasn't a problem, they had considered retaining several on a historic line such as along Chapel Street, but that won't be happening.

Some of these trams are older than me. They have always been a part of my life and it's sad to see them go.

An old friend who passed away some years back, kept himself alive after World War 2 by making very rough models of these trams in approximately O Gauge. He used half a jam tin for the rounded ends and flattened jam tins for the sides. The roof was a piece of 3 x 1 pine roughly rounded off. He spent all his savings having decals of the sides with windows made along with number and destination boards. The trolley poles were bicycle spokes and the wheels and bogies were part of the side decals. He then sat outside each of Melbourne's dozen or so tram depots at the time, making models for the drivers and conductors. Each person got a model of the tram they operated, complete with correct numbering and destinations. My friend applied these on the spot.

The old chap had a few decals left over from the war years and began making the trams again in the mid 80's. Gee, they were rough! Even so, he sold every one until the decals ran out. He told me that during the war years he sold a couple of thousand of the things, which gave him a good income for the time.
 
We don't just call them trams, they are trams. Silly American 'English'.
B_ed, we know the Yanks may have silly words (:hehe: - note ) for what we use, but at least they spell - most words properly that is! For example why spell program programme, color colour, neighbor neighbor, meter metre & so on?

They can even pronounce better - it's not spelt carn't, it's can't, and etc

Aluminum?
I believe they pronounce that as "ay-loom-inum" or similar.

I have seen one tram somewhere in the US that has been modified to have a motorised (?) wheelchair ramp - I thought that would violate some sort of heritage - something-a-rather.

PS: Would I be right that the so called "Talkshow queen" down under is hardly getting a mention in US/Canada? - Did you really have to send her???

Note - Ducks for cover!
 
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