any opinions on Railworks2??

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Railworks is a joke. If you think that is anything close to real railroading, its not. Not even close. Trainz isn't perfect, but its a whole lot better off than RW will ever be. I still use RW, however the manner in which I use it probably varies from yours. I use my copy as a beverage coaster so my desk doesn't get wet. :p

Good Luck.

Mike
 
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My Psychoanalysis Of You

theokus said:
geophil, "all the people" is ok with me but that means only quantity.
It' s ok with me that a lot of people are busy with Trainz.
And be assured too: I too have some editions of Trainz.
(and MSTS)
Why I bought Trainz? I was curious. I wanted to see if that was better than MSTS. I am talking about the looks he geophil.

I could not summon the courage to start with it. It would be wrong from
the start and I was sure that I would not exactly turned on by what I saw
before.
The samples of routes I saw: a bit ugly.
Making a real existing route with Trainz is difficult.
(also with MSTS)
Importing home-made scenery is still difficult.
Please try to understand me: I saw a lot of difficult work coming.
(hope this Enlish is good? I live in Belhium he)
And the final result would not satisfy me.
That Content Manager v3.3 is a real pxx in the axxx
Even today, I do not know how this thing works, if it's works.
But I have to say TS2010 is a bit better then it' s predecessor.
(the looks he, geophil)

RailWorks was a relief: good looks, good graphics he.
(not low poly)
Closer to the real thing.
Railworks did not frightened me off, not one bit.
So I did start he with RW
And I am still going.
I do like the editor.
I my opinion: RW = user friendly.

Talking about talent.
I only know two guys with talent:
- iceman2117 (German guy)
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=271&t=64526&start=1020
(some TS2011 Trainz shots)

- Sad27
http://sad-railworks.blogspot.com/

Real talent is rare
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From this post I can make a determination and actually gain a lot of insight and knowledge about you, all from a single post.

You're extremely superficial and shallow "I am talking about the looks" and "The samples of routes I saw: a bit ugly."

You're afraid to expand your horizons, abhor any type of work, and as a result you've limited yourself to going through life with limited knowledge and that's really a disservice to yourself.

I also take issue with the statement "That Content Manager v3.3 is a real pxx in the axxx Even today, I do not know how this thing works, if it's works." For hundreds of thousands of us content manager works just fine, for me particularly not only does it work just fine Content Creator Plus is a wonderful tool that allows me to modify content to my hearts content.

"Importing home-made scenery is still difficult." Maybe for someone who doesn't want to expand their knowledge to learn how to do it. But I know 13-year-olds who not only do it daily, but practically hourly.

If you only know two guys with talent, I would have to say that due to your superficiality, resistance to learning, reluctance to have to do any kind of "work" has severely stunted your social development as well. You can't throw a rock anywhere in the Trainz community and not hit at least 20 people who are extremely talented.

Let me just name just a few, geophil is one talented dude, creating TransDem I would consider to be one extremely difficult proposition. Ocemy, his release of his new container pack, I will guarantee you you will not find any finer content from an artistic standpoint in RailWorks. The JointedRail team, some of the finest rolling stock available. Cloakedghost, his well cars, containers and his new SD70 are all works of art. All of the many vegetation artists, way too many to mention but they know who they are.

I could go on and on and on and on and on. But I think you summed it up rather succinctly, you can only find two people that you actually know with real talent over on the RailWorks side, all you have to do is come here to be surrounded by greatness with an over abundance of talent…

One small note going back to your "importing homemade scenery is still difficult" remark. I spent the day yesterday casually taking all of Ocemy's container skins and applying them to both JointedRail's and Cloakedghost's actual mesh's as well as stretching them to 45, 48 and 53 foot. I created well in excess of 100 new containers in probably less than four hours. Put each and everyone right back into Trainz 2010 without a single issue.

Content manager 3.3 worked like a champ as well as Content Creator Plus. Both did what they were supposed to do time and time again.

So my suggestion to you would be simple, expand your horizons, realize that nothing rewarding in life is going to come without a little work or difficulty, and expand your social horizons as well, hang out here where you can be surrounded with hundreds of thousands of talented people instead of hanging out over there only knowing two…:hehe:
 
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mrscsi said:
~~~~~snip~~~~~

I could go on and on and on and on and on.

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You did just do that.:D

Come on people, this is about a GAME. It is not real railroading, it is a computer game. Both GAMES discussed above have their pros and cons.

All the master debaters in support of one or the other have their opinions and deserve to be respected, not to be criticised for their opinions.

Zec signs off as....Customer Support Rep
..........................Auran Games

See the words.... Auran Games

Regards to all,
 
aardvark1 said:
You did just do that.:D

Come on people, this is about a GAME. It is not real railroading, it is a computer game. Both GAMES discussed above have their pros and cons.

All the master debaters in support of one or the other have their opinions and deserve to be respected, not to be criticised for their opinions.

Zec signs off as....Customer Support Rep
..........................Auran Games

See the words.... Auran Games

Regards to all,
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I see you were slighted that I didn't mention your obvious talent of following me around and making snarky comments on practically every post I make, I'll try to do better in the future:hehe:
 
:hehe: A duel at OK Corral, guys? ;)

This thread is a wonderful display window.. I love it!

Advertising, psychology, travelling, tourism, missing old loves, duelling, religion, sociology on tribal behaviour, philosophy, farming, making friends or foes, meeting Belgium, ... and much more to see... for free.

That's my kind of threads! :D Iterative but amusing.

The fondest side of this kind of Alberte's threads :wave:

==========================

BTW,

:hehe:
any opinions on Railworks2??
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Nah, none at all...
 
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zatovisualworks said:
:hehe: A duel at OK Corral, guys? ;)

This thread is a wonderful display window.. I love it!

Advertising, psychology, travelling, tourism, missing old loves, duelling, religion, sociology on tribal behaviour, philosophy, farming, making friends or foes, meeting Belgium, ... and much more to see... for free.

That's my kind of threads! :D Iterative but amusing.

The fondest side of this kind of Alberte's threads :wave:

==========================

BTW,

:hehe:

Nah, none at all...
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Exactly

I chose every word I spoke very carefully. I merely examined his statement and countered with what I thought were very POSITIVE counterpoints.

Exalting the benefits of a good work ethic and education, mentioning (some by name) some of the outstanding talented individuals we have in the Trainz community.

Frankly I don't care if someone likes RailWorks over Trainz or vice versa. But when obvious misstatements are made, or statements that show a lack of desire to expand one's knowledge, I believe it would be a disservice just let those words stand without a reply.

I guess some would rather let obvious misconceptions be posted without any response whatsoever, unfortunately I'm not one of those. I don't feel I criticized the original poster in any way shape or form. Merely countered his statements with positive counterpoints and examples.

I too have enjoyed the ebb and flow of this thread, even learned something (possibly) where I'm even digging out my old copy of RailWorks to see. But when someone "implies" that RailWorks is far superior to Trainz and then goes on to make disparaging comments about content manager, and then to further "imply" that there's no REAL talent in this community (and that he's only found two really talented people over there) that's kind of like coming into my living room and insulting my dog, you can say what you want about me, but when you start dissing my dog you're going to get a response…:o
 
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Red_Rattler said:
I have a way to settle this once and for all.
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;) Please, R_R, don't scare us! :D I fear the worst of the worst. :hehe: Please, don't, don't. He
snake.gif
wouldn't do it...

The scared side of Alberte :wave:
 
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mrscsi said:
From this post I can make a determination and actually gain a lot of insight and knowledge about you, all from a single post.

You're extremely superficial and shallow "I am talking about the looks" and "The samples of routes I saw: a bit ugly."

You're afraid to expand your horizons, abhor any type of work, and as a result you've limited yourself to going through life with limited knowledge and that's really a disservice to yourself.

I also take issue with the statement "That Content Manager v3.3 is a real pxx in the axxx Even today, I do not know how this thing works, if it's works." For hundreds of thousands of us content manager works just fine, for me particularly not only does it work just fine Content Creator Plus is a wonderful tool that allows me to modify content to my hearts content.

"Importing home-made scenery is still difficult." Maybe for someone who doesn't want to expand their knowledge to learn how to do it. But I know 13-year-olds who not only do it daily, but practically hourly.

If you only know two guys with talent, I would have to say that due to your superficiality, resistance to learning, reluctance to have to do any kind of "work" has severely stunted your social development as well. You can't throw a rock anywhere in the Trainz community and not hit at least 20 people who are extremely talented.

Let me just name just a few, geophil is one talented dude, creating TransDem I would consider to be one extremely difficult proposition. Ocemy, his release of his new container pack, I will guarantee you you will not find any finer content from an artistic standpoint in RailWorks. The JointedRail team, some of the finest rolling stock available. Cloakedghost, his well cars, containers and his new SD70 are all works of art. All of the many vegetation artists, way too many to mention but they know who they are.

I could go on and on and on and on and on. But I think you summed it up rather succinctly, you can only find two people that you actually know with real talent over on the RailWorks side, all you have to do is come here to be surrounded by greatness with an over abundance of talent…

One small note going back to your "importing homemade scenery is still difficult" remark. I spent the day yesterday casually taking all of Ocemy's container skins and applying them to both JointedRail's and Cloakedghost's actual mesh's as well as stretching them to 45, 48 and 53 foot. I created well in excess of 100 new containers in probably less than four hours. Put each and everyone right back into Trainz 2010 without a single issue.

Content manager 3.3 worked like a champ as well as Content Creator Plus. Both did what they were supposed to do time and time again.

So my suggestion to you would be simple, expand your horizons, realize that nothing rewarding in life is going to come without a little work or difficulty, and expand your social horizons as well, hang out here where you can be surrounded with hundreds of thousands of talented people instead of hanging out over there only knowing two…:hehe:
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A lot of text mrscsi.
But well done ;)

It seems that I am a sinner :hehe:
And it seems, some people are feeling offended.
And you did get me wrong: I know a lot of people but only a few play games ;)

Do surprise me and show some images, they are more convincing.
 
theokus said:
A lot of text mrscsi.
But well done ;)

It seems that I am a sinner :hehe:
And it seems, some people are feeling offended.
And you did get me wrong: I know a lot of people but only a few play games ;)

Do surprise me and show some images, they are more convincing.
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Take a gander over at the European Screenshots thread. A good number of those are really quite mind blowing. Some you would think are real photographs unless you go over the entire picture with a fine-tooth comb.

peter
 
Red_Rattler said:
I have a way to settle this once and for all.
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Any brand of simulator has it's good and bad points.

And it also depends how well each item, rollingstock, etc is made for each simulator.

The only way to find out, is to buy the product, and see for yourself. And if you don't like one over the other, either sell it, give it away, or return it if needs be.

PS: Over 8 pages in two days?:eek:
 
PerRock said:
Take a gander over at the European Screenshots thread. A good number of those are really quite mind blowing. Some you would think are real photographs unless you go over the entire picture with a fine-tooth comb.

peter
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Ok Peter and thank you.
That's a reason I pointed to Ice2117, great guy and great talent.
Look at his screen Trainz-shots.
(in my opinion a bit too saturated but I can live with that)
Talent is talent and I do NOT doubt in people with talent.

Update.
Peter I took a look at http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=70796
I am sorry... but Could not tempt me ;)

This guy, Ice 2117, has talent:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=271&t=64526&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1020
I did not see anything better :)
And he has making the best of it.
 
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Red_Rattler said:
Any brand of simulator has it's good and bad points.

And it also depends how well each item, rollingstock, etc is made for each simulator.

The only way to find out, is to buy the product, and see for yourself. And if you don't like one over the other, either sell it, give it away, or return it if needs be.

PS: Over 8 pages in two days?:eek:
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I did bought them and I saw.... enough ;)
 
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