Another Crude Oil Train Derails In Gallena Ill.

huge outbreaks of birth defects, and children being born without limbs

Thalidomide who?

Unfortunately I'll have to refrain from watching the movie as my tinfoil hat is lost somewhere in the cupboard. Now I'm off to go take my weekly toxic waste bath. I'm hoping to grow a third arm and a set of wings.
 
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Getting back on track (or "off the track" as the original posting was about oil train derailments) - I would ask are oil trains more prone to derailments that any other type of freight train? Or is it because there are more oil trains than other types. Or because their derailments tend to be more spectacular and therefore make bigger headlines and grab more screen time. Perhaps it is a combination of all of these factors.

If there are more oil train derailments than probability would suggest then what are the alternatives, given that oil transport is a necessity?

Road haulage, regardless of the cargo, I would suggest is inherently far more dangerous and accident prone than rail. Apart from the huge number of road oil tankers that would be needed, road haulage operators are under a lot of economic pressure and tend to cut corners with both vehicle and road safety.

Pipelines have major safety and environmental issues as well as making very attractive and easy targets.

I have a rail line running right past my front door. It is a single track commuter line that terminates about a mile further up so I have never experienced freight trains (of any type) rolling past apart from the occasional MOW train.
 
A huge percentage of Powder River Coal, and Baaken Shale oil gets sold and exported, via loading ports in Baltimore Md, and Norfolk Va, and is sent to other places like South America, and foreign Countries like China ... etc ... and we never even get to use the products ... So in essence we are polluting our Country, and poisoning our population, so that other Countries can burn the products up in their smokestacks ... One day you will all see the repercussions of these big business's blatant pollution ... and a shale oil train may derail "Right in your own backyard, 007007" Then it would be a shame ! Then you would be singing a whole different tune, wouldn't you ?
 
These posts are hilarious. The dynamics of unit trains are 1000% more safe then those of mixed manifest trains. Not that I expect, what was it? you untrained Trainzerz like yourself, to understand. Oil by rail is here to stay. Get used to it. These headlines are all about the governments agenda to try and push a pipeline through. Wait for a train with a little chlorine to derail, then we'll see how much attention that gets....
 
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Yeah ... They are making the whole thing up ... there are no unsafe shale oil trains derailing multiple times per year ... It is just hilarious isn't it ? ! ?
 
These posts are hilarious. The dynamics of unit trains are 1000% more safe then those of mixed manifest trains. Not that I expect, what was it? you untrained Trainzerz like yourself, to understand. Oil by rail is here to stay. Get used to it. These headlines are all about the governments agenda to try and push a pipeline through. Wait for a train with a little chlorine to derail, then we'll see how much attention that gets....

I agree... The anti-rail media is lapping this up and making a bigger issue out of it as the information is being fed to them. It's not the government so much as someone else or a group with an agenda, I think...Oil pipelines are worse when they leak because they continuously leak until someone manages to get to the site and fix the pipe. In the mean time there's 250,000 barrels of oil spewing into a river somewhere. This actually happened up in your neck of the woods didn't it?

Except for that pesky little thing where it's illegal to export US crude. You'd make a damn good politician.

This is correct and is one of the issues that was brought up against the XL-Keystone pipeline. The plan was to pump the oil from Canada right through to the Gulf or export.

John
 
LOL, here goes another thread brought to you by Cascaderailroad's Institute of Misinformation

13,165 derailments in 2015 and counting!

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We don't have oil trains here in Oz as our few crude oil fields are all offshore. Fuel trains, in my home state at least, ceased running a few years back and all fuel haulage is now by road. But when the fuel trains were running I do not recall a single accident that was serious enough to make the news. Accidents involving fuel transported by road - well there have been some spectacular, and fatal, examples during the past two years.
 
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