Advantages and disadvantages - Waiting for auto hot fixes and patches

[Robert2d6]

The "fuzz" IS People go through the trouble of Installing this crap and then it messes up their present Trainz 2012 Installation, It a big pain in the butt to have to go through all of that, When the SP should have worked as advertised, Now that it does NOT ,I think they need to yank it and fix it, then release it When they have vetted it better. Mods Sorry but It's the truth, You guys Blast People Who Criticize Anyone who speaks Negative about this mess and N3V.Sorry if you don't like this statement If the truth hurts ,Say So.

I have updated programs for years, on my computers, and don't ever remember having to back up the entire program , with a duplicate copy , before applying the update in case "things go wrong".

 

[jimabbey]

My point was ,You should not to have to even go through all of that in the 1st place, If the patch was actually working When it was released. All of this mess and backing things up ,reinstalling ,uninstalling...ect , would NOT have been necessary.

 

[shaneturner12]

Let me get something straight here. The only users who are reinstalling are ones that either do not want SP1 installed any longer (and who should have not installed it in the first place), or ones that have not followed instructions when patching the game like leaving their antivirus software on.

Shane

 

[mick1960]

I have updated programs for years, on my computers, and don't ever remember having to back up the entire program , with a duplicate copy , before applying the update in case "things go wrong".

Yes, because most programs do not allow parallel installations. This is one of the greatest advantage of Trainz, that you can do so. For testing purposes I had six or seven, actual four installations side by side without any problems. And it's really not a great deal to copy a folder to another location, isn't it?

And if you are that long busy using computers your experience should have told you, that before you change a running system, a backup or at least a restore point can sometimes be quite helpful, because it happens that an update can be a downgrade. That is in the nature of software. I use computers since 1984 and I never had a perfect peace of software, there have been always some pitfalls and glitches…

So what?

Mick!

 

[xcrossi]

They are not assets but text files that reside in the folder ..\ts12\bin\TETData\lists. As an example, one of them contains the various smoke modes, another the various country regions and so on. These files are used by CM (probably) and AssetX to provide lists of available tags in a config.txt.

Some months ago PEV (I think) advised users of AssetX to update some of these text files to include new tags for TS12 SP1 validation. The problem arose when SP1 tried to update those files and found them to be different in content to what was expected. It decided that the files were corrupted and promptly stopped the update and rolled back. So I had to find some original copies of those files to keep SP1 happy.

So if you never changed them you shouldn't need to worry about it.

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[Rail4Pete]

A disadvantage is that without patching, you get stuck as Post-SP1 assets are not compatible with build #49922.
Rail4Pete

 

[pcas1986]

...Then after the release of hotfix 2, yesterday I gave another try. In Surveyor, when I select a table, the building one or the locomotive one, sometimes the response is so loooong, I'm loosing much time on waiting. I did not have that problem in 49922.

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Rail4Pete

For me it was a long wait the first time any list was used but after that it was fine. I suspect Trainz was rebuilding an internal list.

Now it takes less than a second for the traincar list to display. Loading routes still takes rather a long time but perhaps no longer than 49922.

Much of my Trainz activity is constantly stopping and restarting Trainz to test script changes. One of the assets I work on, not mine, takes about 2 minutes to commit. I've learned to be patient.