A Trainz license per PC?

[Lataxe]

The same PC has served me for some 8 years, with various upgrades to this & that as the technology evolves. But the time has come to take a big step up and buy a whole new PC, especially since the old one will go to a second life in the holiday lodge that the ladywife has spent our savings on. (She argues that money in the bank is a waste, except to the bankers who use it to award themselves another champagne party on their new yacht).

I will be using Trainz 2010:EE in both locations - but not at the same time of course. My question: do I need to buy a second license if I have Trainz 2010 loaded on both PCs?

Since Trainz 2010:EE can be got for ten quid at Amazon, it won't be too hard on the wallet if I do need a second license. On the other hand, I get a bit tetchy when it comes to the methods used to sell software (in general, not just with Trainz) since I like the old-fashioned notion of paying once for a thing then using it how you like, as it's now yours, rather than paying a fee for highly limited usage rights.

But then again - I would willingly pay 5 times as much for Trainz; and another wodge to those happy fellows who make & provide all that free content on the DS.

Lataxe, looking forward to some very smooth framerates on his new toy (I mean essential collection of hardware).

 

[fran1]

No, it's registered to you. 1 copy is all you need. Just use the same user name and password.

 

[Lataxe]

Fran,

Thanks for your reply. I've put my ten quid into the Paulz trainz fund instead.

Lataxe

 

[jbanetman]

I haven't had a problem playing Trainz on the various PCs we have in the house. As long as you own (registered) the License I don't think there's a problem.

 

[jbanetman]

And you are right, a PC to run Trainz on is an essential part of the furnishings. I am pottering on it most nights, not that any of my routes I attempt look good, but that hasn't stopped me yet.

 

[Lataxe]

Mr Man,

It is good to know that your cat has you, er, trained up. In my case, its the collie dawgs that bask in the warm spot under my desk. This also dries the rascals out apres ball&stick chucking along the canal towpath. I ignores the damp fog they generate.

The new PC that will wing its way to my letterbox afore long is not quite up to that spec you quote at the bottom of your posts - although it has an overclocked i5, a 250Gb SSD and an AMD HD7970 GPU. I am hoping that even the most densely-populated ECML session will run without a jitter or jerk. The big GPU is overkill perhaps; but it must drive a 30" 2560X1600 screen. I also hope that the high-spec hardware will run well below max and therefore cool/quiet. I got a soundproof case and extra big fans just to make sure.

Software license prices & practices - they are so variable. £10 for Trainz 2010 seems a fantastic bargain, especially given the access to all that extra content provided by the many contributers via the DLS. Compare this to the price (and restrictions) of a license to use Adobe Photoshop CS5, for example.

Meanwhile I have indulged in some payware from Paulz Trainz. I enjoy older British stuff - steam, early diesel & electric - as well as the appropriate routes from the DLS. At present I'm able to amend and merge other folks routes successfully; but my attempts to build a route from scratch founder on my lack of expertise with those details and overall designs that would make a route realistic rather than a cartoon. Practice is the key, I suppose. But there are so many other interesting pursuits for a retired lad.....

Anyroadup, I can recommend the Paulz stuff as well-made and functionally replete with animated this and that. I indulged in some observation coaches, old-style DMUs, the electic MSJARs and an LMS Claughton engine.

Lataxe, probably having his second childhood.

 

[RRSignal]

Software license prices & practices - they are so variable. £10 for Trainz 2010 seems a fantastic bargain, especially given the access to all that extra content provided by the many contributers via the DLS. Compare this to the price (and restrictions) of a license to use Adobe Photoshop CS5, for example.

Good point. And, with the lack of "product activation" and other DRM, unlike Adobe, I know I can still run Trainz 5 or 10 years from now. By then, the i7 and i5 may well be on clearance when new 256-core i25 come out, but you probably won't have to upgrade either than game or hardware if you don't want to.

 

[jbanetman]

Yep, Dogs and Cats like to be wherever we are. The cat, tho, has decided the mouse cursor is a fun chase toy, so I let her chase it across the screen every once-a-while. As for PC specs, really any i5 or i7 at 2.6ghz or faster can drive most video cards as fast as it can go. So its mainly the graphics card and amount of ram that is most important. I just was able to afford the big i7 and didn't mind the cost. Your HD7970 graphics is great, I'm waiting for Nvidia's big Kepler in August before I move up in graphics.

 

[jbanetman]

And, so far N3V hasn't decided to do the over-the-internet 3 Activation limit thing like some companies, which drives me up the wall. I'm grateful its just a one-time register, and yes all that content on the DLS.

 

[maruffijd]

I find my self patient enough to wait for the "latest, greatest" vid card to become a second gen series. Much cheaper then. I am waitin to see Nvidia 740 and above to drop on the market to aquire a 650 to 680 pair of cards. (currently using 470's, and I upgrade every other series)

 

[WindWalkr]

Strictly speaking, the license on most of our products includes the following text:

".. N3V grants to you a personal, non-transferable and non-exclusive license to: (a) install and use the Software, at any one time, on a single stand alone computer.."

kind regards,

chris

 

[jbanetman]

Mr Man,




The new PC that will wing its way to my letterbox afore long is not quite up to that spec you quote at the bottom of your posts - although it has an overclocked i5, a 250Gb SSD and an AMD HD7970 GPU. I am hoping that even the most densely-populated ECML session will run without a jitter or jerk.

I avg around 40 to 50 FPS at 1920X1080 on the Appalachian coal route in 2012, I imagine your HD 7970 should do similar or better. My Nvidia 570 is running at GTX 580 performance due to the i7.

 

[Mouse84]

And, so far N3V hasn't decided to do the over-the-internet 3 Activation limit thing like some companies, which drives me up the wall.

When they do that, I'll stopping buying their product.

 

[RRSignal]

When they do that, I'll stopping buying their product.

Same here. Hopefully, though, that they realize that access to the DLS pretty much eliminates the need for product activation schemes.

 

[cascaderailroad]

Trainz is not to be lent/borrowed/rented/re-sold/retransfered between different users ... However unlike a Microsoft Windows7 DVD, (which may state that only one PC in your house can use the disc/licence) ... But with Trainz you can install the disc on an unlimited number of your own PC's ... as long as you are the original licenced registerd user.

Play the bagpipes in public ... Go to jail ... the Accordian is illegal to play in public in 7 US States !

 

[Lataxe]

Mr Walkr,

Well ... in light of this license agreement extract you have revealed, I will buy another TS2010 license, despite the fact that I can't run the two PCs at the same time, them being 212 miles apart (170 as the crow flies; but crows never ask to run my Trainz).

The PC living in the wilds of West Wales will have no internet connection since even the telegraph has not reached into those far hills as yet. I'll be taking a copy of my home-based up-to-date TS2010 to Wales whenever I go there, on a small external HD. Presumably I will be able to import content from that HD to the Wales PC then run Trainz as normal, despite the lack of the internet connection?

A final question: can I register two copies of TS2010 under the same username (Lataxe) or will this confuse CMP utterly?

Lataxe

 

[fran1]

Lataxe,
He wrote "strictly speaking", as I said in post#2 you don't need another copy. People have multi player and non multi versions of 2010 installed on the same computer, now you don't seriously think they've got 2 copies do you.
At a good very guess you can't use the same user name and password (after reading a later post I realise I meant registering).

 

[kenneth18278]

Lataxe,
He wrote "strictly speaking", as I said in post#2 you don't need another copy. People have multi player and non multi versions of 2010 installed on the same computer, now you don't seriously think they've got 2 copies do you.
At a good very guess you can't use the same user name and password

Yes, you can. I made the mistake of buying 2010EE from steam when they had it on offer. Registered it, and over the next few days and weeks, realised that Steam and Trainz are not happy bedfellows. I then downloaded another copy from the Aurun website (which I should have done in the first place. I know that now), registered it on same user name and password. No problems.

But Fran's right - you don't need another copy. The only reason I have 2 is my own mistake buying it from Steam in the first place.

By the way, you said you like British steam locos - check this out http://www.gplocomotives.com/blogweb/index.php and see what you think. At £3 each they are well worth it.

Ken

 

[prr001]

Hi Lataxe

I've been following this thread for a few days and I'm amazed it took this long for the "truth" to come out considering it's right at everybody's finger tips - literally. I mean, really, c'mon - doesn't everyone remember clicking I Agree?

Despite that, fran1's "good very guess" is incorrect. This means you can have the same Planet Auran Profile username and password for all installations, whether they be individual installations or multiples from the same disk on different PC's or HDD's.

OK, so you decide to buy another licence (read DVD or digital download) for 2010 - no matter. Having more than one serial number of a particular product will not phase Planet Auran or the DLS in anyway. I have 2 Paintshed and 3 TRS2006 S/N's under my current PA username and had over 25 Trainz 1.3's in another alter-ego profile.

Now with that being said, if you feel obliged to have two licences for Trainz, why not take advantage of the system and get a copy of 12? (It's 20% off until the 20th if you can get the Easter voucher to work!) That way you can carry forward your 2010 content while trying out the new features of 12. As a recent aquirer of 12 and 2010 I'm biased that way Regardless.................

Keep on Trainzing

Cheers

 

[ZecMurphy]

Hi Lataxe
As a note, if you are interesting in purchasing a second license for your second computer, please contact the helpdesk (orders & shop department), as we can assist you with this.

As a note, for those with TS12 or TS2010 (multiplayer beta), a second license will allow you to run multiplayer sessions between two computers in the one house (so long as they are registered to two accounts).

Also, nice to see you around the forums again Prr001 (although when I first started using Trainz, you were using your alter-ego by then ).

Regards