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I know I might get ridiculed for asking this question but oh well what the heck I might as well just ask it since I want to get it off my chest and see what I get out of it.

The 2-6-0 or Mogul type locomotive was built between 1860 and the 1920s and was used primarily for freight trains. Now with that said couldn't you use them for passenger service or would I be doing myself a disservice by using them for passenger service. I think it would be ridiculous not to. I think they'd do a great job at it.

The 2-8-0 or Consolidation type was also used for freight service and built from 1866 to the end of the steam era in the 1950s and could be used in passenger service if the owner so desired.

The 2-8-2 or Mikado type was used in freight service but could also be put to work in the passenger industry.

Now the biggest question of them all is the EMD FT that was built from November 1939 to November 1945 and had a total of 555 A units & 541 B units manufactured. The engine was built specifically for Freight Train duties but also got deployed to passenger service on occasion according to the Australian engine in Trainz. I can't remember which exact one though.

Now the reason why I ask is because I wanted to do some future models for my fiction railroad and I'd like to know what their strengths and weaknesses are.

Note: I got this information from Rails Across America & Trainz along with Wikipedia plus other research sites.
 
Freight engines generally did not have the steam generators required for passenger service. Probably a moot point for a steam engine, but for a diesel accomodations would have to be made.
 
40's-50's? Many diesels replaced steamers and steamers usually worked branchlines or had helper duties, on the Class I's anyway, smaller RR's would probably have kept steamers for a while longer. Diesels were cheaper and easier to maintain I think

A Mogul wouldn't be seen pulling anything extravagant, that was the bigger engines job, but they could have pulled some late 1800's passenger trains, but by the 40's-50's, most RR's used big steamers or diesels to pull their pass

Jamie
 
H222 said:
40's-50's? Many diesels replaced steamers and steamers usually worked branchlines or had helper duties, on the Class I's anyway, smaller RR's would probably have kept steamers for a while longer. Diesels were cheaper and easier to maintain I think

A Mogul wouldn't be seen pulling anything extravagant, that was the bigger engines job, but they could have pulled some late 1800's passenger trains, but by the 40's-50's, most RR's used big steamers or diesels to pull their pass

Jamie
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Well not every RR had big steamers. In fact only 1,200 4-8-4s were built in US Canada and Mexico combined!! More Prairie 2-6-2s were built then 4-8-4s and they were made in the late 19Th & early 20Th century and used only on branch-lines. So I guess the could have been used on commuter trains. If the railroad had any and so desire to commit them to such duties.
 
Here in Detroit the PRR passenger trains arrived at the station behind a 0-6-0, this was do to the load limit of a bridge near it that would not take the K-4.
 
Down here in Australia steamers are rarely seen pulling freight these days. Some C38s have been seen pulling two Water gins and a coach. The NSWRTM sometimes does it for visitors.
4449 was probably helping Cab forwards in it's early years.
 
Yosemite Valley Railroad had a few moguls doing double duty with excursions and freight, so its entirely possible for you to do so. I've got a soft spot in my heart for back-country shortlines, and when it comes to power, there is always something interesting about how cookie-cutter the YVRR was. Yet in using the power the way they did, it lent a certain element of character to the line that really makes it appealing from a raifan's perspective. I would say go for it, just make sure you have the equipment to match and the justification to back up your power choice.
 
I think when Moguls and Consolidations and Mikes were used for passenger service, they were equipped with larger drivers. Less tractive effort but more speed.
 
Kris94: No, sometimes the big 2-8-8-2 would have a bigger tractive effort and less speed to haul heavy freight..I think most freights move between 40-50MPH..
 
Kris94: I think most passenger Engines had Bigger Drivers for speed..Now I think that most Engines built in the late forties had both good traction plus speed..Some of the 4-8-4's had boosters put on there Trailing wheels for more traction and speed..
 
the thing is with the ft's they could pull paddenger trains but they would need a steam generator with them unless they had a bolier built inthen it would be indicated as an FP7or9 and would have an extra 4 feet now for the 2-6-0's pull passenger trains for all you care I mean some railroads did use them for passenger to my knowlage.
 
Kris94 said:
Well not every RR had big steamers. In fact only 1,200 4-8-4s were built in US Canada and Mexico combined!! More Prairie 2-6-2s were built then 4-8-4s and they were made in the late 19Th & early 20Th century and used only on branch-lines. So I guess the could have been used on commuter trains. If the railroad had any and so desire to commit them to such duties.
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OK, first and foremost the Northern Pacific (a first class RR) did use some 2-6-2s for switching duties, so not for short lines only!But around the mid 1920s the NP converted most of there 2-6-2s to VERY light 2-8-2s, which still were used for switching duties, or used on a few of there short lines. And yes almost all of America's first class RRs used 4-8-4s. Which the NP designed and gave the plans to Baldwin or Alco or what ever, to build. I know that some of this info may help you, if you are depicting a 1st class RR then You really should use some Northern's and don't forget those tiny locos for switching or use on a short line. As I feel you with building freelanced RRs, and I for sure know picking Motive power can be a bit of a challenge, I KNOW. Also something to be determined is what era are you modeling and what place, depending on the conditions that your RR is in (such as mountains, Prairies, Desert, ect.). Choose wisely!
MTW;)
 
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