3 way junctions

Signals

Hi Superfud & Harry,

Ok .But since I am modeling 1920s to 1940s there is no way I am going to use coloured light signals. I have used semaphores throughout the layout except for some yards and some industries where I don't have room for the shunting disks and in most cases where room is tight I use invisible signals to get the AI to complete the process.

Cheers,
Bill69
 
Are THESE the sort of thing you mean?..:p
JunctionSignals.jpg
 
Hi lewisner,

Yes I think they would be a big help in more than one place on my layout.
I have not seen these before, can you give me a kuid or tell me where to find them please. They would tidy up my signaling considerably.

Many thanks,
Bill69
 
Bill , the Signal Bracket on the left is "JJS Cantilever Tower" KUID 46819:28011 or 28012.The one on the right is "Signal Bridge" KUID 65940:58750.They"re both height and distance adjustable and to fit them under UK Signal "Dolls" (thats the UK term for the signalposts on top of a signal gantry) you need to lower them.The signals themselves are a bit of a cheat : only the ones with the raised arms are attached to the track.The others are dummies and are attached to Invisible Track set to the same height as the "real" track and to the left of it.So they don"t actually work but if its the appearance you"re bothered about it looks good.Using this technique you can have virtually any combination of signal you want - Banner Repeaters on Semaphore gantries, Disc signals on gantries (by raising the Invisible Track until the Disc is high enough) and so on.Hope this helps...:cool:..P.S "Stelldraht 1x , 2x , 3x " are runs of Signal Wire for extra realism.
 
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lewisner said:
The signals themselves are a bit of a cheat : only the ones with the raised arms are attached to the track.The others are dummies and are attached to Invisible Track set to the same height as the "real" track and to the left of it.
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Couldn't they be used by editing the dist. from track as you posted recently?
 
Yes , but the only difference it would make would be in which "doll" was working.You can have a "Home Gantry Left Branch"(working) moved to the left and then a "Dummy" Combned Gantry but still only a maximum of two working dolls....:o
 
EUREKA!! It can be done! After thinking about what you said about the signal configs the solution came to me........it works beautifully and its so simple I can"t believe I didn"t get it earlier.Watch this space tomorrow...:cool: :cool: :cool:
 
I use these all the time (At several places in the layout). How do I "see" the setting of the points? : I put two dwarf signals at each diverting track and none in the center. When I go into the points, if the two dwarfs are red, the center track is the one to go, if one or the other is green, that is the track. Coming from any of the three tracks, I look at a conveniently placed signal past the points (facing my direction of travel), and I switch the points until it get's green (obviously for my train). Easy and uncomplicated. This should answer the primary question, but could be more complicated in AI.
 
3WayJunction2.jpg
OK...So you want to make a fully signalled 3 way junction? First, you may need to alter (as in the photo below) the "LMS Home Gantry Left Branch" as I described in "Altering Auran Signals" which I"ve bumped up on this page.You need to set the Trackside value to -2.3 and add "left" to the Asset name.In Surveyor lay a straight track which we"ll call the Main line.Then create a line to the left.Finally create a line (the Branch) going to the right (nearest the camera).On the Branch, insert a Track Spline Point BEHIND the place where you plan to install the Signal.Click all Track Spline Points and set them to the same height so that they are level.Now, attach your altered Home Gantry Left Branch Left signals between the Branch junction and the junction for the line to the left of the Main line.Then attach a Combined Semaphore Gantry to the Branch between the Branch Junction and the Track Spline Point.Now drag the branch over to the left so that its track sits exactly on top of the Main Line.The signal dolls should now be next to each other and it will look as though the Branch starts from behind the signals.Place an Invisible Signal on the left hand line so that the signal arm can detect when the route is set, Install the Signal Bridge under the signal dolls and ...thats it! When an AI Driver approaches the junction he will see an arm raised indicating which line is clear.If you"re driving in Cab Mode you"ll have to cosider whether the correct route is set, as would a real Train Driver.Any questions?:cool:
Making3WayJunction.jpg
 
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Bill69 said:
Hi Superfud & Harry,

Ok .But since I am modeling 1920s to 1940s there is no way I am going to use coloured light signals. I have used semaphores throughout the layout except for some yards and some industries where I don't have room for the shunting disks and in most cases where room is tight I use invisible signals to get the AI to complete the process.

Cheers,
Bill69
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They only way I can think of you using colour light when modelling the 1920s to 40s is if you modelled the Southern Railway between grouping and nationalisation where they used a lot of coloured light around london.

regards

Harry
 
You've never seen one so that automatically means the railways don't use them?

I remember someone just like you on the old forum. Always used to swear in his posts and never had anything constructive to say.

He got banned though...
 
At least he has brought this thread out of the doldrums so at least someone might get something useful out of it..BTW read the "Ignore List" thread.Wheres that button?:p
 
people i live in usa

1 i did not say ive never seen one

2 pencil is right nothing in sg gage around here

3 i hate my new glassis

4im changing wat i said because u peeps have such fits


oh and pencil 42 thats a double switch from the pic
 
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