WOODS.....all welcome to post yours too
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blueodessey
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Trees Etc, Tracks (could u id these Tracks, they look perfect with the wooded scenery.
Thanks Blue and here you go :
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VR 80lb BG Wood - No Ballast - Rusty
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I did reskin these tracks using a pic I took of the actual track in that region.
The original ( pre-skinned) tracks looked a little too new for what I wanted, and I just like using my own track pics for doing re-skins.
If you want the template of the reskin I did, I'll be happy to post it in this thread. I have not uploaded these re-skinned tracks anywhere.
Here's an overhead from the same route of the reskinned tracks
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<kuid2:103475:38205:2>
VR 80lb BG Wood - No Ballast - Rusty
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I did reskin these tracks using a pic I took of the actual track in that region.
The original ( pre-skinned) tracks looked a little too new for what I wanted, and I just like using my own track pics for doing re-skins.
If you want the template of the reskin I did, I'll be happy to post it in this thread. I have not uploaded these re-skinned tracks anywhere.
Here's an overhead from the same route of the reskinned tracks
blueodessey
Well-known member
Thank you for Picture, and yes on the Template would be great, I just really think they look so good with your Scenery Project.Thanks Blue and here you go :
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<kuid2:103475:38205:2>
VR 80lb BG Wood - No Ballast - Rusty
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I did reskin these tracks using a pic I took of the actual track in that region.
The original ( pre-skinned) tracks looked a little too new for what I wanted, and I just like using my own track pics for doing re-skins.
If you want the template of the reskin I did, I'll be happy to post it in this thread. I have not uploaded these re-skinned tracks anywhere.
Here's an overhead from the same route of the reskinned tracks
I did another one also...just like this one, but a bit darker to look more natural for extended shady sections of the route.
Jim, you have definitely caught the feel of the northeast vegetation.
While those of use who live here are familiar with the dense, often heavy, underbrush and tightly packed trees, folks "from away" (as we call them in northern New England) have difficulty in imagining just how dense the woods are. The folks out west in particular have difficulty with the density, and the southerners are used to some of the density but aren't familiar with the changes the heavier evergreen population brings. The woods of eastern/central upstate NY, southern Quebec, New England, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia have a distinct feel that is different even from Pennsylvania, western upstate NY, and southern Ontario, much less places further afield.
Yet even across this area there are great differences in vegetation. The various part of the Northern Appalachians (Adirondack, Berkshire, Green and White Mountains) are each different and so to are the watersheds below them. Maine alone has some definite changes from the coast to the mountains and from south to north, the vegetation changes and differs from area to area. In fact the state forestry department has 7 zones for fall foliage reporting as each zone has different mixes of trees and times when the trees turn (to see them just search "Maine fall foliage report" in your favorite search engine).
Might I suggest you put together some sort of tutorial, list, or some such for the rest of us who like to model the northeast. I set my most recent project, the fictitious costal New England shortline line the Carolyn Cove & Point Meridith Railroad and Navigation Company Ltd. (yes, CC&PM), in late October to avoid foliage framerate issues (for like yourself I have... an elderly desktop).
Thor
While those of use who live here are familiar with the dense, often heavy, underbrush and tightly packed trees, folks "from away" (as we call them in northern New England) have difficulty in imagining just how dense the woods are. The folks out west in particular have difficulty with the density, and the southerners are used to some of the density but aren't familiar with the changes the heavier evergreen population brings. The woods of eastern/central upstate NY, southern Quebec, New England, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia have a distinct feel that is different even from Pennsylvania, western upstate NY, and southern Ontario, much less places further afield.
Yet even across this area there are great differences in vegetation. The various part of the Northern Appalachians (Adirondack, Berkshire, Green and White Mountains) are each different and so to are the watersheds below them. Maine alone has some definite changes from the coast to the mountains and from south to north, the vegetation changes and differs from area to area. In fact the state forestry department has 7 zones for fall foliage reporting as each zone has different mixes of trees and times when the trees turn (to see them just search "Maine fall foliage report" in your favorite search engine).
Might I suggest you put together some sort of tutorial, list, or some such for the rest of us who like to model the northeast. I set my most recent project, the fictitious costal New England shortline line the Carolyn Cove & Point Meridith Railroad and Navigation Company Ltd. (yes, CC&PM), in late October to avoid foliage framerate issues (for like yourself I have... an elderly desktop).
Thor
As someone from the Western US, I can greatly appreciate these dense woods. In the intermountain region between the Cascades and the Rockies, I am used to wading through eastern and northern facing slopes full of ninebark, ceanothus, ocean spray and huckleberry. On the coast they have even worse stuff, like Devil's club. A co-worker relocated to the coast. He wrote us a letter that he took his golden retriever with him to ribbon an area for precommercial thinning. It took him until lunch to do a quarter mile, wading through brush. They got back to the truck for lunch, and when he was ready to go back into the woods, the dog indicated he would rather not!
Wow, great post Thor with a lot of insightful info about vegetation differences.
For the counties I'm wanting to cover in central and northern NY state, I categorized each country 's common trees and general vegetation types. Many had overlapping vegetation of course, but you'd start to see a different variety, mainly with trees, once getting into the higher, more northern part of the route. The counties list is what I use as a vegetation guide on this route. You take that information and then match it to pictures of the area, closest to the tracks, using Google Earth street views, for example, and take it from there.
I created a separate small "route" of a single baseboard that is nothing but vegetation used in this route along with some houses for getting the scaling right. I found it easier to do it that way when looking for vegetation to try and match what's needed next. I put some screen shots of that earlier in this thread.
My hope for this thread was that others who have experience working on vegetation with Trainz in wooded areas can share their ideas and strategies also so we can learn from each other. That was the original purpose of thread. I know it gets repetitious looking at trees, plants and woods type of textures, so I stopped posting on this thread a few months ago until I started experimenting more with textures recently that goes with the vegetation,. Questions, ideas, and of course screen shots from others is welcome.
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Oh yeah, big differences in the whole atmosphere of woods from the west in comparison. The Yosemite redwoods, the Nevada pine forests , the Colorado Aspens, all that good stuff.
The northeast has it's own thing going too. The southeast has their own type of thick woods, but like the other regions, there's a different look and feel about them.
That dog loved being out there and wonders why a human would even consider wanting to return indoors.
The first thing I'd do is look up the country for Carolyn Cove, or wherever your starting point is, and do a search for vegetation specific for that county. Get a list of trees and then start looking at the trees on DLS that match the description. I mainly use trees by str_mm, Roys Trees, JVC's, and Clam's. Many of the names are in Russian, but there's a translation list out there in English, that I'm thankful that someone did.
I have a copy if needed. To get the U.S. northeast look, I've reskinned many to a darker shade, plus reduced the color saturation somewhat. This is all to suit my own perception of reality and.....I could be a little off. HA ! ....
It wouldn't be the first time. I'd be happy to help with trying to sort this out.
Jim thanks for the encouragement, I can walk outside with my "Peterson's Trees and Shrubs" field guide to find the flora... I just wanted the little bits of what to look for in Trainz, plus maybe a quick rundown on how to do some of the graphics work. I can reskin older stuff (not so much with the new stuff), but I'm not sure about the saturation bit...The first thing I'd do is look up the country for Carolyn Cove, or wherever your starting point is, and do a search for vegetation specific for that county. Get a list of trees and then start looking at the trees on DLS that match the description. I mainly use trees by str_mm, Roys Trees, JVC's, and Clam's. Many of the names are in Russian, but there's a translation list out there in English, that I'm thankful that someone did.
I have a copy if needed. To get the U.S. northeast look, I've reskinned many to a darker shade, plus reduced the color saturation somewhat. This is all to suit my own perception of reality and.....I could be a little off. HA ! ....
I'd be happy to help with trying to sort this out.
Just a bit of wisdom I learned a while back... double check that you have the right origin info and that your trees are not from the southern hemisphere, nothing like a fall foliage in April.
Another name for color saturation is "color vibrancy" or vibrance...depending on what photo editing software you're using. For reskinning, you can find pics of different trunks, but for the leaves section, I just do a slight darkening ..or a deeper darkening for trees inside the woods, and reduce the color saturation somewhat for all the texture or textures.Jim thanks for the encouragement, I can walk outside with my "Peterson's Trees and Shrubs" field guide to find the flora... I just wanted the little bits of what to look for in Trainz, plus maybe a quick rundown on how to do some of the graphics work. I can reskin older stuff (not so much with the new stuff), but I'm not sure about the saturation bit...
Just a bit of wisdom I learned a while back... double check that you have the right origin info and that your trees are not from the southern hemisphere, nothing like a fall foliage in April.
Not to brag, but I have uploaded to the DLS 350+ Forest ground textures. You can find them under username JohnnyC1 kuid 473136. They're listed as "PBR Forest Ground" and the higher the number sequence the better the quality.
If you have a texture that you wish to include in your route, attach a photo this thread and I see what I can do.
Sincerely.
John
If you have a texture that you wish to include in your route, attach a photo this thread and I see what I can do.
Sincerely.
John