Why isn't there a Chicago-Miami Amtrak train?

jordon412

33 Year Old Railfan
Here's the problem for anyone wanting to take train only to Miami from Chicago: you have to take at least two trains to get there. Here's your choices:
1. Take the Capitol Limited from Chicago to Washington, D.C. and then take the Silver Star from Washington, D.C. to Miami
2. Take the Capitol Limited from Chicago to Washington, D.C. and then take the Silver Meteor from Washington, D.C. to Miami
3. Take the Cardinal from Chicago to Washington, D.C. (or New York City) and then take the Silver Star from Washington, D.C. (or New York City) to Miami
4. Take the Cardinal from Chicago to Washington, D.C. (or New York City) and then take the Silver Meteor from Washington, D.C. (or New York City) to Miami
5. Take the Lake Shore Limited from Chicago to New York City and then take the Silver Star from New York City to Miami
6. Take the Lake Shore Limited from Chicago to New York City and then take the Silver Meteor from New York City to Miami
7. Take the City of New Orleans from Chicago to New Orleans and then take the Crescent from New Orleans to Alexandria, Virginia (or Washington, D.C. or New York City) and then take the Silver Star from Alexandria, Virginia (or Washington, D.C. or New York City) to Miami
8. Take the City of New Orleans from Chicago to New Orleans and then take the Crescent from New Orleans to Alexandria, Virginia (or Washington, D.C. or New York City) and then take the Silver Meteor from Alexandria, Virginia (Or Washington, D.C. or New York City) to Miami

As you can see, it takes at least two trains to get from Chicago to Miami. Now here's my proposal: a train from Chicago to Miami. There's already a good canidate for this: the Royal Palm. It ran from Cincinnati, Ohio to Miami, Flordia via Southern Railway's subsidaries and Florida East Coast. Here's the original route:
Southern's Cincinnati, New Orleans and Texas Pacific from Cincinnati to Chattanooga, Tennessee
Southern's East Tennessee, Virginia and Georgia from Chattanooga to Macon, Georgia (it passes thru Atlanta, Georgia)
Partly-owned-by-Southern Georgia Southern & Flordia from Macon to Jacksonville, Flordia
Flordia East Coast Railway from Jacksonville to Miami

Now here's the 'modern route':
Metra from Union Station (Chicago) to 81st Street (Chicago)
Union Pacific from 81st Street to Thornton, Illinois
Canadian National from Thornton to Munster, Indiana
CSX from Munster to Cincinnati, Ohio
Norfolk Southern from Cincinnati to Jacksonville, Florida
Florida East Coast from Jacksonville, Florida to Miami

I must note that the section from Chicago to Cincinnati is also the route that Amtrak's Cardinal also follows. One more thing of notice:
The route intersects with the Crescent's route in Atlanta, which allows the possibility of passengers transfering from the Crescent to the Royal Palm to go to Chicago or Miami or passengers transfering from the Royal Palm to the Crescent to go to Washington, D.C. or New Orleans.

Because the tunnels on the Cincinnati, New Orleans and Texas Pacific (a.k.a. 'The Rathole' for the many tunnels) have been 'daylighted' or bypassed, double-stack container trains take this route, meaning that Superliner cars can also follow this route.

Now what does everyone else think?
 
This has been argued by railfans, AMTRAK and the govn't for years. I live near Nashville and we've been trying to get an AMTRAK route back through here for at least 20 years that would run from Chicago to Miami. I used to belong to a group in Nashville that was very active in trying to get the route going, but to no avail. I don't see it happening anytime soon either.

Mike
 
In a time of "sequester" I can't imagine any government organization going to congress for more money. Personally, I think it would be a great idea. I think the politicians, particularly those dedicated to eliminating government, would rather hear about how to dismantle Amtrak completely. Never mind that Amtrak may be the key to our future when oil supplies dwindle. It isn't "needed" now.

Keep thinking the great thoughts. Maybe sanity will arrive in Washington on Amtrak trains.
 
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Because most customers would be making a one-way trip, south, to retirement homes and condos in Florida ... And the return train would be empty.
 
Because most customers would be making a one-way trip, south, to retirement homes and condos in Florida ... And the return train would be empty.

Interestingly enough, in the golden age of trains many of those folks would have eventually ridden back to the lands from whence they came in a pine box in the baggage car. As an old song once predicted, "Same ol' train that brought me here gonna take me back home again."
 
Chicago to Miami is one of several "holes" in Amtrak's route map that need to be filled. Others would be Houston - Dallas - Denver; Houston - Dallas - Minneapolis, Denver - KC, and Houston - Miami. In the current economic climate, I don't see any of these being filled any time soon.

ns
 
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