buckeye2728
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I was just wondering what version you guys would recommend between 04 and 06 and why? Does one run better then the other? Thanks
Which version, 04 or 06?
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Ian_Coleman
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I would go for 2004. As far as I am concerned, 2006 is a pain in the a***, due to the CMP, which seems to be designed to drive the average trainzer into a lunatic asylum.
Having said that, there's nothing wrong with 2006 if you don't want to download anything frm th DLS.
Ian
Having said that, there's nothing wrong with 2006 if you don't want to download anything frm th DLS.
Ian
MrScott2006
Banned
There are little tricks around the CMP. While TRS2004 is nice, I would go for TSR2006.
buckeye2728
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thanks guys, is there better performance out of one or the other...ie. I have heard people say that 09 gives better fps then 04. How does 06 perform compared to 04? Thats good to know about the dls.
john_goddard
Steam freak
Ts2010 is the one to go for, should be ready Mon. 23rd
bigboy4010
Hardcore Steam Breather
I don't know the performance differences between 04 and 06, as I've only got 06. I can say though, if you've got the initial patience to learn and deal with some of the glitches in 06, its a nice program to have. You've got more content available, as it can run 04 and 06 content. However, you might want to consider 09 or 10, seeing as their the new ones out. 09 does have a good fps when you aren't running in compatibility mode, meaning you can really on run 09 content. When you go to compatibility mode to allow 06 and 04 content, the fps I guess takes a real dip, down to 06 ratings I think. I wouldn't be surprised if any of the info I just gave you is misleading, so perhaps wait for someone to back me up before taking my advice.
meatloaf747
Spotter...
If your PC's is more than 5 years old, stick to 2004. If it's medium (plus) spec'ed, 2006 or 2010. (as for your question; this debate been going on for four years now. 04 versus 06). My choice, 2006 over 2004. It all depends whether you like strawberry better than vanilla. :hehe:
Cheers, Mac...
Cheers, Mac...
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johnwhelan
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TRS2006 and TC3 offer marginally better frame rates than TRS2004, say 3% better depending on your hardware. TS2009 in native mode offers much better frame rates again based on your hardware, it dumps a lot more work onto the video card which has more capacity in the pipelines and con make use of multiple cores which TRS2004 and TRS2006 cannot do.
TS2009 / TS2010 can use more than 2 gigs of memory when used with a 64 bit operating system, they both have texture compression which effectively quadruples your video card memory, can make use of more than one core of your cpu. There is some rather nice content available for TS2009 that uses rather more polys than you would like to use in TRS2006 have a look in the forum for boxcars by whitepass and scenery objects by vinnybarb, I think they use normal mapping as well. TRS2006 users can access both TRS2004 and TRS2006 content, TS2010 users can access TRS2004, TRS2006, TC, TS2009 and TS2010 content on the DLS. CM2 in TS2009 / TS2010 is much improved over TRS2006 CMP.
If you are into steam, TC3, TS2009, TS2010 all have the improved steam specs.
Cheerio John
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I've been very happy in the asylum for years and had few problems with CMP or downloading. Other folk call it not fit to burn or recycle!!
I'm seriously considering getting 2010 but will keep it on a separate drive from 2006 just in case. According to rumour 2009/10 gives better frame rates than 2006 running the same routes. So should not need a top spec ish comp to run demanding routes.
If your any wiser after my input good luck.
buckeye2728
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Thanks for the responses everybody
I am installing on a computer to be used just for trainz. I have a 2.4 quad with 8gb ram and 512mb video card that i will probably get 2010 for but I have 04 and 06 and am going to probably install 04 on a amd 3000 2.1 ghz with 1 gb ram and 256mb geforce 6200 card. Should it run trs 04 decent? Thanks 
Got them all...
Hi,
Once I would have said get 04, it's the best thing since sliced bread. I use it all the time for route creation (even now) but rarely actually sit and run scenarios (play trains in other words!) apart from testing each route created to see if it works and ironing out faults, at least I try to!
Many moons ago I bought the original Trainz but soon moved the UTC and then onto 2004 when that became available. Recently I purchased TC3 and 2006 but I must admit I had serious problems with CM-whatever, maybe moreso in TC3 because I still get track problems in it.
They both installed fine and after some extended and very patient help from a member of the group I belong to was able eventually to get my head round CM. Now I can import fine, sort out problems and Commit in both versions.
However, I can't say I like this performance every time an assets is downloaded from the DS and still much prefer the simple couple of clicks to install into 2004. This version runs very well so the saying 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' comes to mind.
Having said that and apart from a type of track going awol in TC3, both that version and 2006 run very well on my PC which is now about 4 years old but does have quite a high spec, near the top at the time it was assembled, which is why it has lasted.
Whichever version you choose you are about to lose most of your spare time and quite a slice of the rest of it! Trainz becomes compulsive...
Enjoy it.
Angela
Hi,
Once I would have said get 04, it's the best thing since sliced bread. I use it all the time for route creation (even now) but rarely actually sit and run scenarios (play trains in other words!) apart from testing each route created to see if it works and ironing out faults, at least I try to!
Many moons ago I bought the original Trainz but soon moved the UTC and then onto 2004 when that became available. Recently I purchased TC3 and 2006 but I must admit I had serious problems with CM-whatever, maybe moreso in TC3 because I still get track problems in it.
They both installed fine and after some extended and very patient help from a member of the group I belong to was able eventually to get my head round CM. Now I can import fine, sort out problems and Commit in both versions.
However, I can't say I like this performance every time an assets is downloaded from the DS and still much prefer the simple couple of clicks to install into 2004. This version runs very well so the saying 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' comes to mind.
Having said that and apart from a type of track going awol in TC3, both that version and 2006 run very well on my PC which is now about 4 years old but does have quite a high spec, near the top at the time it was assembled, which is why it has lasted.
Whichever version you choose you are about to lose most of your spare time and quite a slice of the rest of it! Trainz becomes compulsive...
Enjoy it.
Angela
TRS2004.
TRS2004 is largely free of bugs. TRS2006 is not.
TRS2004 has a working asset management system that anyone can learn to use. TRS2006 hasn't.
The sound works in TRS2004. For many people it doesn't work in TRS2006 and there is no fix.
TRS2004 can create and run scenarios. TRS2006 cannot.
Write off TRS2006 as dead.
Wait for service pack 2 of TS2010 and evaluate it then, when most of worst bugs should have been mended and the price will have dropped to under the equivalent of ten UK pounds. (Unless you're a content creator, for whom the purchasing decision is very different of course.)
John
My own personal opinions and not necessarily those of RBR
TRS2004 is largely free of bugs. TRS2006 is not.
TRS2004 has a working asset management system that anyone can learn to use. TRS2006 hasn't.
The sound works in TRS2004. For many people it doesn't work in TRS2006 and there is no fix.
TRS2004 can create and run scenarios. TRS2006 cannot.
Write off TRS2006 as dead.
Wait for service pack 2 of TS2010 and evaluate it then, when most of worst bugs should have been mended and the price will have dropped to under the equivalent of ten UK pounds. (Unless you're a content creator, for whom the purchasing decision is very different of course.)
John
My own personal opinions and not necessarily those of RBR
Gary_Evans
Still plays with Trainz
John, you are guilty of spreading false information. One can create scenarios with both 06 and 09. Since I have actively started using 06 and 09 I have created a half dozen scenarios, three of which are currently on the DLS.
Buckeye, please keep in mind that the opinions expreseed in this thread are those of the folks who replied and not necessarily those of the management. In fact I am surprised you started this thread. There must be a dozen or more threads on the forum in which folks ask for and receive advice about whether to purchase 04, 06 or 09 or even UTC. The opinions you receive are are dependent upon the posters' feelings at the time they post. I once stated I would never give up UTC until I tried TRS2004 whereupon I believed I would always use it until I tried 06 and 09 which I am currently using. They are all good. Support Auran and purchase all of them and you decide.
Happy Trainzing.
G
Buckeye, please keep in mind that the opinions expreseed in this thread are those of the folks who replied and not necessarily those of the management. In fact I am surprised you started this thread. There must be a dozen or more threads on the forum in which folks ask for and receive advice about whether to purchase 04, 06 or 09 or even UTC. The opinions you receive are are dependent upon the posters' feelings at the time they post. I once stated I would never give up UTC until I tried TRS2004 whereupon I believed I would always use it until I tried 06 and 09 which I am currently using. They are all good. Support Auran and purchase all of them and you decide.
Happy Trainzing.
G
Yes, a slight oversimplification I admit. Scenarios can indeed be made for TRS2006 but only with SCS or as rules in sessions as RBR does. TRS2006 has no facility to create a GameScript scenario template file or to export TSO files, and the latter omission AFAIK makes it impossible for anyone with TRS2006 alone to use the same layout with different triggers, trackmarks and other trackside objects for each scenario.
John
As you can see opinions differ re TRS04 and 06. Mine is (if you care 
) TRS04 with 4 Service packs released which makes TRS04 a lot better than TRS06. As AURAN seems to have given up with fixing TRS06 after its last service pack (its only one by memory but I could be wrong). With many TRS06 users sound and other issues remain and there is CMP with its somewhat "fancy" quirks which needs to be learned proper to use it right.
Why not visit AURAN's store page, there is a Trainz Collection pack here which has among other stuff both TRS04 and 06 included. As a bonus you also get all inclusive:
Trainz Railroad Simulator 2006
Trainz Routes 1, 2, 3 and 4
Trainz Railroad Simulator 2004
Trainz Ultimate Collection
Trainz Paintshed
for less than AU$ 50 which is less than US$ 44 or so again, a real bargain if you ask me.
That way you can test both yourself, be your own observer which version is the better one and participate in discussions in the forum like this one.
You do help AURAN as well by spending your money directly with them. :hehe:
Once you get the hang of any of the above versions, then TS09 or the not released yet TS10 should satisfy your urge for a better version still. Now, doesn't this sound like a better proposition?
Cheers
VinnyBarb
) TRS04 with 4 Service packs released which makes TRS04 a lot better than TRS06. As AURAN seems to have given up with fixing TRS06 after its last service pack (its only one by memory but I could be wrong). With many TRS06 users sound and other issues remain and there is CMP with its somewhat "fancy" quirks which needs to be learned proper to use it right.Why not visit AURAN's store page, there is a Trainz Collection pack here which has among other stuff both TRS04 and 06 included. As a bonus you also get all inclusive:
Trainz Railroad Simulator 2006
Trainz Routes 1, 2, 3 and 4
Trainz Railroad Simulator 2004
Trainz Ultimate Collection
Trainz Paintshed
for less than AU$ 50 which is less than US$ 44 or so again, a real bargain if you ask me.
That way you can test both yourself, be your own observer which version is the better one and participate in discussions in the forum like this one
. You do help AURAN as well by spending your money directly with them. :hehe:
Once you get the hang of any of the above versions, then TS09 or the not released yet TS10 should satisfy your urge for a better version still. Now, doesn't this sound like a better proposition?
Cheers
VinnyBarb
buckeye2728
New member
thanks for the info guys! Like I said, I will be getting 2010 for my newer pc, and i already have 04. I was just wondering if 06 was worth upgrading to on an older pc. thanks again!
Like I said, I will be getting 2010 for my newer pc, and i already have 04. I was just wondering if 06 was worth upgrading to on an older pc. thanks again!