What UK stock do we have that would have been used in the war??

Davie_UCF

Here since 2001, Trainz!!
I've been thinking up scenario ideas for my route far too much (its nowhere near finished but ideas still come) and one idea is a WW2 weekend.

I'm thinking war vehicles and the like, around the railway grounds but rolling stock I need some help on as they weren't really built for it and painted green!

To the question..
What UK stock do we have that would fit this era? First I can think of is the Q1 in the works by the great Skipper..

Any other locomotives? Rollingstock? Suppose it would be Mk1s?

Thanks for your help!
David
 
Definitely no Mk1's in WW2 - they weren't even conceived until after nationalisation in 1948, and introduced in 1951.

Generally most WW2 stuff was in pre-war liveries as there were better things to do than re-paint stock. Most of the big four had simplified war-time liveries for the whatever did get overhauled or built - for the LNER it was black with NE on the tender. LMS also repainted in black during the war years - although all but their prestige loco's were already black anyway.

Andi06 is working on some WD 2-8-0 (and 2-10-0 I think) WD "austerities", and there's also some payware 0-6-0 Austerity tanks. Also as payware there's the "S160" american 2-8-0's that were used over here, and the USA tanks.

The Q1 is suitable for the later part of the war, as are (personal plug coming up...) my payware Warwell tank wagons.

Hope that helps a bit, and apologies to all the content I've doubtless forgotten. I'll add it as I remember.

Anthony
 
Hi David

Any pre war stock would be suitable. Andi06 has a set of Gresley coaches and also a set of Quad Art suburban stock which would all be suitable. He also has a set of GWR coaches as well and I also believe that John Wellan has made some GWR coaches (I'm not into the GWR so I'm not too sure). The duchess add-on from N3V comes complete with a set of Stanier coaches which would also be suitable.

As far as wagons go you would need to search the DLS for anything GWR, LMS, LNER or Southern. I know Eldavo made some Southern wagons but they have some problems in later versions of Trainz.

For locomotives I can think of the O4, J39, N2 and J69 locos which are all on the DLS in LNER livery. There are also the Jetstreamsky models updated by Alex23 which are also on the DLS V2, A4, Duchess etc. Skipper45 also has a lot of GWR locos and some Southern ones on the DLS. If you aren't averse to payware, GP Locomotives make a number of top class locomotives available in LMS and GWR liveries and there are various locos on Paulz Trainz website. Doncaster Works website also sell LNER B1 class and Southern Beattie tanks.

I'm sure there will be many more but these are just off of the top of my head.

Regards

Brian
 
FYI, Coutoumarie updated his website today in the Freeware section. He has a railgun on there, complete with Schnabel-ish car. It's Axis, not U.K., but might make for an interesting piece of captured enemy equipment.
 
A few more to throw into the mix

AEC railcars by andi06
Bulleid SR coaches - search DLS for 'Bullied'
various MOD/WD rollingstock by bobsanders and johnwhelan
SR IOW stock by pacificseven
LNER wagons by jontee
Numerous other wagons by johnwhelan, bobsanders, paulhobbs
lielestosbrat's 04s/RODs
UKBL website has a few items too
 
Many thanks to the replies!

I feel stupid regarding the Mk1s now, what a silly error..
Anyhow I have the Gresleys and love em, same with the Quads. Also got the Duchesses LMS stock.

I googled a bit and learnt of Austerities based on the 8F's, but I guess they weren't just 8f's but looked a bit different..
I look forward to Andi's stock!
 
I would just like to add that goods wagons and vans became 'common owner' during WW2 so could be seen far from their normal habitat (although of course company-owned vehicles were never confined to their own company's area). The same applied to private owner wagons.

Repairs and repainting were quite basic. Passenger trains could be much longer than in peace-time, especially when troop movements were involved. At night, a blackout was in force and every effort was made to conceal light coming from, for example, the fires necessary on steam engines - tarpaulins could be used to conceal light from cabs. I believe too that signal lamps were shrouded to conceal them from aircraft.

However ( and this was mentioned in a recent TV broadcast) railways were used extensively as navigation aids by British pilots, especially those (often women) delivering new aircraft to airfields.

Where the risk of enemy landings was considered possible, there were often large concrete blocks by the side of railway lines; these were to prevent the movement of tanks. Similar blocks were used on roads - there were some outside my own school (in fact one was built in a hole made in the school's perimeter wall) and in the case of roads at least these were supplemented by lengths of rail bent into an inverted V shape, to be inserted in holes in the road between the concrete blocks.

Another 'scenic item' along the railway would have been 'pillboxes', small fortress buildings of brick and concrete with firing slots, often to be used in case of need by 'Dad's Army' - in my boyhood, this was certainly a true description, as my father's sten gun lived in the umbrella stand in the hall (although the ammo was kept elsewhere).

A fully scenic wartime route in Trainz would be interesting - at least, there would be no need to provide nightmode in buildings! But the glow in the sky from FIDO* which could be seen from our house would have to be provided!

*FIDO - Fog Investigation Dispersal Of - fuel burned at airfields to disperse fog at night. In our case, this was at RAF Marham which (from memory - and a visit) was a Lancaster base.

Ray
 
Very interesting, thanks Ray..

I'm sure I saw a thread of someone making a wartime route, but nothing came of it.. Might have been magickmaker.
 
Many thanks to the replies!

I feel stupid regarding the Mk1s now, what a silly error..
Anyhow I have the Gresleys and love em, same with the Quads. Also got the Duchesses LMS stock.

I googled a bit and learnt of Austerities based on the 8F's, but I guess they weren't just 8f's but looked a bit different..
I look forward to Andi's stock!

2 if not 3 8f's have been brought back from Turkey I think, 1 is back running or very close to it.
 
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