WHAT THE......????

[jytte]

HELP! Somebody, please tell me what's up here?

I'm making a batch of sound files I need for a layout. I've made 30some files, all identical except for the sound, so it's not like I don't know how to make them by now.

Today I just made (CCP) "horse1", "horse2", "horse3", no problem. Then I made "horse4", and surveyor plum refuses to play a sound. So I checked for spelling or other errors in config.txt (and CCP), no errors. I double checked the wav file. no problem. I finally gave up trying to figure out what that was about. Deleted the file. Started over. Even made a whole new wav file, just in case the old one had some problem I couldn't detect. Checked the new "horse4" file. NO sound. I also tried to just rename the wav file (other than "4"), NO sound.
What the ..... ??? I'm going nuts here. Is it written with small print somewhere that I'm only allowed 3 horses?????
I want my horsie :'(

Anybody have a suggestion here????

EDIT:
CONTINUATION:

I tried to make a "horse5", no sound. Then shut down everything. Restarted the computer. Went back to CMP, made a "wolf" sound this time. Works like a charm (as does all the others). Tried my luck again with a "horse4", no sound! This really is driving me bonkers!!!!!

ANYBODY???????

 

[ICE6404]

Honestly, I don't know what is going on, I'm having a lot of problems of my own with Trainz. Have 4 and 5 been longer than 1 2 and 3? And depending on if you are using a program that needs to be bought and is becoming faulty due to a 30 second limit? Thats really all I can offer at this point, seeing that I am not the best person to figure out your "horsie" dilemma.

Good luck,

ICE6404

 

[jytte]

No, 4 and 5 are both smaller (wav) than some others I've made, and all my programs are paid for:hehe:
I sure don't know either, but thanks for your moral support. I will need some of that, before I end up in the funny-farm.

 

[jytte]

MYSTERY SOLVED

For anybody interested in this issue, I solved the problem.

Having the same problem with yet another sound, I realized it had to be the wav files creating the problem. And sure enough, they were both 2-tracks (stereo), and that's a no-no (as I just found out by digging a little further into the CCP guide). So back in the workshop they went (Audacity), turned them into mono files, dropped them back into the folder of the assets, and now everything works just fine, including horsie number 4!

So, I'm a lot smarter now, and hopefully somebody else can learn from my mistake too.

 

[ICE6404]

May the horsies live in peace

 

[jytte]

Thank you :hehe:

 

[JCitron]

For anybody interested in this issue, I solved the problem.

Having the same problem with yet another sound, I realized it had to be the wav files creating the problem. And sure enough, they were both 2-tracks (stereo), and that's a no-no (as I just found out by digging a little further into the CCP guide). So back in the workshop they went (Audacity), turned them into mono files, dropped them back into the folder of the assets, and now everything works just fine, including horsie number 4!

So, I'm a lot smarter now, and hopefully somebody else can learn from my mistake too.

I just found your thread, and new what the problem was, but you solved it yourself. Good job. This is one of the aspects of Trainz that I really like and makes the program what it is compared to others out there.

John

 

[AJ_Fox]

So a horse walks into a bar and the bartender says "Why the long face?"

Sorry couldn't resist.

Cheers

AJ

 

[jytte]

Well, at least I can contribute to the general entertainment in this forum

 

[jytte]

Meanwhile, Trainz just crashed on me, and CMP is going through a "rebuilding database", that's gonna take a while. This just isn't my day.

Oh well, I guess I can read through posts in forum in the meantime, and get even smarter.

 

[ICE6404]

In the mean time, can someone respond to my topic? Switching Loads? Not trying to be bossy or anything :hehe:

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Jytte

I'm interested in the things you do because you took an interest in mine. Glad to hear you solved the sound problem and it's good you took the time to post what the solution was. So many threads have problems but no solutions!

I know you're producing these sound objects for TRS2006. Is there any reason why these objects would not work in earlier Trainz editions? If there is no special feature in '06 that you're taking advantage of, then would you consider changing the trainz-build number in the configs to something less than 2.5 or 2.6? More people could use your assets then.

~ Deane

 

[jytte]

Hi Deane,

Thank you for taking an interest in my things.
I'm not quite sure what to answer here. I'm not making them "for" 2006, but I only have 2006, and I don't know if these would work in previous versions. I'm new at all this. I just jump into the fray of things when there's something I need and can't find, and try to find a way to make it. I would like for everything I make to be available to anyone that want to use it, but I'm not sure how.
I made these in CCP. When I open a new file, it automatically enters "trainz build 2.5". I don't know if I can change that without errors occurring, and if I do, will it then work for 2006 etc ?
If you have 2004, could you please download one and try it? Then let me know if it works. And if not, I would gladly change it so that it would, if you or someone else will tell me how to do that (without making a "faulty" asset out of it).
The sound files are all named "xjc sound .......", username "jytte", kuid 386158

 

[jytte]

eeeeeee, the forum just died on me, never seen that happen before.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was, I sure hope that 2009 would bring us all together on the same page. Would be so nice if we didn't have to deal with all these "different versions" issues.

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Lost track of this thread for a while.

I'll D/L one of your sounds and manually change the trainz-build from 2.5 to 2.4 and report back soon.

Edit: Tried one of your horsies. Didn't work. I guess there must be more differences between '04 and '06 that I thought.

 

[bnsf50]

Dean, did you remove the zero that I highlighted in red below? 04 cannot read the .wav file if that 0 is there.

soundscript {
    fans {
        repeat-delay                0,0
        distance                175,175
        sound {
            [COLOR=Red]0[/COLOR]                "Fan1.wav"
        }
    }
}

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

No, the only thing I changed was the trainz-build number, just to see if it was a simple thing for Jytte to make it '04-compatible. It appears not to be.

Presumably the zero is there because '06 needs it, so if it's removed, then doesn't the asset become faulty in '06 ? I'm sure that's not what Jytte wants.

Sure, I could remove the zero myself, but if I use it in an '04 layout that goes to the DLS, then it will still be a faulty asset for other '04 users.

 

[jytte]

That's exactly right Deane, and that's why I've spent time updating 40some files to '06, so I can have (and upload) a route that is NOT faulty.

If none of the new files I've made (like the horse) won't work for 2004, well... that sucks. Yes, I was looking for a way to make it work for both, but maybe that's not an option after all?

Thanks for trying Deane.


UPDATE: I made a clone of "horse1", and edited it directly in config.txt. I changed the build to 2.4, and removed the zero as bnsf50 said. It didn't show "faulty", but alas, when I go into surveyor to try it out, there's no sound. So I guess it's an either/or situation.

 

[jytte]

hmmmmmm

Hmmm, I just did some more investigating. I have a file "bird1" by Wiley4, I've used it in my route, so I know it works, and it is NOT showing "faulty" either, and this one was made back in July'03. Being that this is older, I assume that this one works for 2004.


Here's the config:


kind "scenery"
light 1
type "custom"
obsolete-table {
}
trainz-build 1.3
category-region-0 "to"
category-era-0 2000
soundscript {
dayloop {
repeat-delay
distance 50,100
sound {
bird1.wav
}
}
}
autoanimation 1
region "Wiley's Sounds"
asset-filename "Bird1"
name "Bird1"
category-class "BU"
kuid <kuid:45203:100238>
description "Soundfile Bird Chirping"
username "Bird1"
author "Wiley"
organisation "Trainzer"
contact-email "wiley4@bigpond.net.au"
contact-website "http://www.wiley4.net/"
license
kuid-table {
}

So, apparently there IS a way. I'll try to experiment some more. I'm just afraid, that if I stray too far from the current standard, I'll be really screwed when 2009 comes around, and I really want that one.

 

[Iced8383]

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