What Junk!!

[sparky15]

I didn't realize we were taking turns, and I'm unprepared. Forgive me; I'll try to cobble something together for next time...

I come to Chicago several times a year, born there and have family still living there. You, I would like to meet for a round on me.

 

[OverlordNZ]

I paid about $60 bucks for nothing but a headache! I have had this TRS 2006 for about 3 years now, and I haven't even gotten to play the stupid thing. I have never been able to download anything @ all, I get an error message every time I click on something, I can't connect to the download station in my browser or in the useless CMP, and after paying $60 you have to then pay for a subscription to download content that doesn't even work, that should be included for that much $ anyway, I have 2 very high end gaming pc's, one with XP and the other with WIN 7 x64 and it's like trying to game on one of the first Gateway computers that came on the market, and that's bad, I've read every troubleshooting forum I've set everything to open with admin privileges and there's always another brick wall to contend with, you spend so much time trying to get the damn thing working that, when you do get it going "which I never have" you're so disgusted with it that you don't even want to see it, nothing on the auran website makes any sense or works, I've never seen so many dead end links and shortcuts,

everyone should have at least 2 copies of Trainz,
ONE TO **** ON AND ONE TO COVER IT UP WITH!

Damn, that's rough. Sorry you couldn't figure it out. I have been in Trainz since Day 1 and its always worked here.. Tough break man. Its all Auran's fault ..yep.. uh..huh..um...

Cya..have fun..

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[martinvk]

Will an upgrade in hardware solve a missing texture allowed by lax error checking?

No, not every error CAN be fixed by hardware but in this specific case, an upgrade to add in the missing texture or by removing a reference to a texture that is not needed will fix the problem.

 

[sparky15]

No, not every error CAN be fixed by hardware but in this specific case, an upgrade to add in the missing texture or by removing a reference to a texture that is not needed will fix the problem.

Then your hardware arguments are a moot point.

 

[JCitron]

No John. The content worked all along. Auran allowed it. The problem is trying to save a buck by milking out a ten year old game engine.

All fault falls on Auran. They, who wrote the program, accepted it to fill the DLS and every box copy they sold with free content they didn't have to produce. No attempt was made to correct that content before being hosted on the DLS or passed to the consumer. I guess now you will say they are a small company and couldn't afford it.

Content with errors was uploaded. It was also allowed to be entered into the DLS and game by programers who knew better. Now, after the fact, they want it fixed because the new program flags those errors they allowed for so long. Tell me they didn't know this before releasing 2009/2010. And, they provided no way to ensure compatibility to the end user. How is it a creators fault when those in charge of this program allowed it?

Sorry bud.

The game engine has nothing to do with the errors. Auran hid the errors, I agree, for their built-in old content, and this has come up many times in the forums. This unfortunately "helped" foster the mess we have now.

Remember this is not the same company that we knew before - different management, different developers. I can't remember whose left of the original crew there.

What I would have done, and I agree with you, is to have fixed the content before TS2009/2010 came out. There really is not a lot of in-built content, and the process wouldn't have taken that long. The thing is, it took a complete change in management to convince the company to allow the community to fix the content. We've only been asking for this for as long as I can remember - perhaps 6 years now?

Regarding the build numbers. I would have made one asset with a build number range instead of a single build number. This would allow owners of older versions to still download dependencies even though the content has been updated. Instead of being only version 2.9, the build number could be 2.0 - 3.x where x is the latest build. This would ensure that nearly everyone can still use the older content that has been repaired.

John

 

[narrowgauge]

Sparky

You have taken this thread off topic, the original complaint was that TRS2006 would not run on any of his high end computers.

He said this

much time trying to get the damn thing working that, when you do get it going "which I never have"

Obviously, as TRS2006 has never worked, he would not be concerned with, and have never seen, errors shown up by CMP. Nowhere in this thread has anyone said that content errors are machine related except you.

Peter

 

[sparky15]

Narrowgauge,
Feel free to delete my posts if you're going to moderate.

Yes JC, you are right. This problem has been dragged on by those accepting the content and using it all along. Now, with a need to sell new versions, the situation is getting worse. The DLS was a mess before and now with compatibility issues with newer versions it's worse.

The fault does not fall on creators who uploaded before. It falls on the company who accepted them to begin with. They accepted the content, then changed the game knowing the errors it would produce after the new version was out.

Now, with the sales department, they are using it as an excuse. I make a ground texture. Works in 2004, error free in 2009. What does the build number matter? All they are checking is the build number, not the errors. The onus is again on those uploading and access based on what build you have.

 

[JimDep]

I guess all the people with more moderate machines who are busy with Trainz, shouldn't be.

Yea right. I'll just quit the 6 year old project I've been working on because you told me to.

If you want to front me the money for a new computer so I can run the latest version, I'll buy TRS 2010. promise.

 

[stovepipe]

Cue the Auran faithful. All they do is good, everyone else is just out to smear them. Server problems, someone else's fault. 2010, someone else's fault for not uploading right ten years ago. Never fault Auran for taking what they could get at the time.

You people are narrow minded. Getting scammed and accusing everyone else other than the mother ship's policies.

Beyond funny you are. And the list is long.

and with the same regularity, cue the anti-Auran faithful.

 

[wholbr]

Hi Everybody.

I paid about $60 bucks for nothing but a headache! I have had this TRS 2006 for about 3 years now, and I haven't even gotten to play the stupid thing. I have never been able to download anything @ all, I get an error message every time I click on something, I can't connect to the download station in my browser or in the useless CMP, and after paying $60 you have to then pay for a subscription to download content that doesn't even work, that should be included for that much $ anyway, I have 2 very high end gaming pc's, one with XP and the other with WIN 7 x64 and it's like trying to game on one of the first Gateway computers that came on the market, and that's bad, I've read every troubleshooting forum I've set everything to open with admin privileges and there's always another brick wall to contend with, you spend so much time trying to get the damn thing working that, when you do get it going "which I never have" you're so disgusted with it that you don't even want to see it, nothing on the auran website makes any sense or works, I've never seen so many dead end links and shortcuts,

everyone should have at least 2 copies of Trainz,
ONE TO **** ON AND ONE TO COVER IT UP WITH!

it would seem that long-standing members of this forum are getting into arguments with one another over what is nothing less than a stupid incoherent rant made by the opening poster. He states that he has owned TRS 2006 for three years and yet he has only made five postings on the forum none of which states that he is unable to run the game.

We all know that Trainz is a steep learning curve when first acquired. Time and patience is needed to do anything much beyond driving on the routes provided with the inbuilt content. After that many hours can be spent just learning how to lay track, create landscapes, learn signalling and then create your settings to run your locomotives on your creation. Again it takes time and patience.

However, there are many in today's “instant society” who cannot accept that. If something cannot be exactly how you want it in the first 10 minutes then it has to be rubbish. It has to then to be abused to as wide an audience as it is possible to reach in an effort to hide the users own inadequacies and justify the person's failures to themselves.

I believe that the opening poster is one of the people characterized above, so let's not give him the gratification of knowing he started an argument amongst regular forum members that must give him a feeling of justifying his rant. Why not just let him wallow in his inadequacy and failure which we all know has nothing to do with anyone else but himself.

Trainz/Auran is not perfect, but no matter what they do in the future they will never be a success to people such as the opening poster.

Bill

 

[pauldm]

Bill,

I was just about to comment when I saw your post. You've summed things up perfectly.

In between arguing with one another, has anyone noticed that the original poster hasn't been back to further his case. Sounds like a wind-up merchant to me.

Paul

 

[amigacooke]

How is it a creators fault when those in charge of this program allowed it?

OK it's all Auran's fault.

Now how does that actually help anybody at all?

 

[paulhobbs]

Can we stop feeding the trolls please? We all know the first rule of Trainz anyway - it doesn't matter what the user does, it's Auran's fault.

Paul

 

[JCitron]

Hi Everybody.



it would seem that long-standing members of this forum are getting into arguments with one another over what is nothing less than a stupid incoherent rant made by the opening poster. He states that he has owned TRS 2006 for three years and yet he has only made five postings on the forum none of which states that he is unable to run the game.

We all know that Trainz is a steep learning curve when first acquired. Time and patience is needed to do anything much beyond driving on the routes provided with the inbuilt content. After that many hours can be spent just learning how to lay track, create landscapes, learn signalling and then create your settings to run your locomotives on your creation. Again it takes time and patience.

However, there are many in today's “instant society” who cannot accept that. If something cannot be exactly how you want it in the first 10 minutes then it has to be rubbish. It has to then to be abused to as wide an audience as it is possible to reach in an effort to hide the users own inadequacies and justify the person's failures to themselves.

I believe that the opening poster is one of the people characterized above, so let's not give him the gratification of knowing he started an argument amongst regular forum members that must give him a feeling of justifying his rant. Why not just let him wallow in his inadequacy and failure which we all know has nothing to do with anyone else but himself.

Trainz/Auran is not perfect, but no matter what they do in the future they will never be a success to people such as the opening poster.

Bill

As always, Bill you've summed this up nicely.

I've sseen this with a lot of things outside of the Train sim as well. Piano lessons? Does anyone take more than a few lessons anymore? The problem is, as you've said, that somethings require more than the quick and easy, no work, way of doing things. People usually quit after the first 3 years of lessons because, after the frst 3 years, the learning curve gets pretty steep and builds on what was supposed to have been learned before.

In some ways Trainz is the same way. You learn how to run the Trainz in the tutorials, and this applies to your own route building. By observing what the "experts" have done, one can easily learn how to build their own routes. This is what I did. I looked at those great routes created by our community and emulated what they did. As time has gone on, I've improved sections of my route that I was never satisfied with, or to put it another way, look really terrible compared to what I've done today. Without learning and trying, nothing gets done. All it takes is a little edfort and time to get it right.

John

 

[OverlordNZ]

Can we stop feeding the trolls please? We all know the first rule of Trainz anyway - it doesn't matter what the user does, it's Auran's fault.

Paul

But trolls are so much fun! :hehe: (I feel left out, blame ME and my colourful past!)

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[rjhowie]

What I find difficult to fathom is something said earlier with regard to the length of time factor and only 5 posts in 3 years mentioned? Seems odd that one would suffer so long then be displaying frustration? I am an average joe and try to solve something first but then so that my enjoyment of Trainz is not impaired I will come on here and get opinions and advice.

 

[airtime]

Bill,

I was just about to comment when I saw your post. You've summed things up perfectly.

In between arguing with one another, has anyone noticed that the original poster hasn't been back to further his case. Sounds like a wind-up merchant to me.

Paul

I agree with you Paul, he seems to have caused a storm and then done a runner, I have heard of bashing a bishop but this ridiculous...:hehe:

Joe Airtime

 

[wholbr]

Hi Joe, Paul and Everybody.

I agree with you Paul, he seems to have caused a storm and then done a runner, I have heard of bashing a bishop but this ridiculous...:hehe:

Joe Airtime

perhaps he did not do a runner so much as realized that the game was up. Therefore it was doubtless a case of Auran Knight to stupid Bishop four....... checkmate

Bill

 

[JimDep]

Hi Joe, Paul and Everybody.

perhaps he did not do a runner so much as realized that the game was up. Therefore it was doubtless a case of Auran Knight to stupid Bishop four....... checkmate

Bill

Well, having a self proclaimed king remind another of their pawn status isn't much fun and this is not directed toward you Bill, just borrowing your chess analysis .

 

[wholbr]

Hi Everybody

Well, having a self proclaimed king remind another of their pawn status isn't much fun and this is not directed toward you Bill, just borrowing your chess analysis .

No offense taken whatsoever Jim, and taking the chess analysis a bit further perhaps Mr Bishop could "pawn" his copy of Trainz to get his money back:hehe:.............. Oh god this thread is getting worse (apologies)

Bill