Waybill - attach to a train?

[boleyd]

I have trains coming into a system/route via portals. Reverse is also concurrent.

I need incoming to have a waybill or manifest so I can direct the train to the proper customer drop-off.

I cannot find any way to even display a waybill. There is a Wiki section but it is
a collection of partial sentences.

Or, if a waybill was created that preceded the arrival of a train that would be ok.

Big grey area....

 

[pware]

I have never used Waybills but if it is any help there is a Waybill setting in all interactive industries. You set the % point at which (I believe) a waybill of products available is produced.

On the rare occasion where I have needed to worry about commodity levels I have always used the Multiple Resource Check Rule.

 

[pware]

After a bit more research I suspect that you would have to control the actions of your trains through using Session Rules in the Session Editor. There is a Wait on Waybill Rule that can be used to activate a set of driver commands that would direct a train towards an industry that has a set % of product available for loading. There are no driver commands that I know of that use the Waybill.

If you have never created a session using the Session Rules and the Session Editor then there will be a learning curve.

 

[wreeder]

The waybill system has NOTHING to do with trains, train cars, freight movements or anything else to do with the way that "real railroads" operate despite the marketing verbiage. The system is logically backwards from the way railroads operate in real life. As Peter said, an industry can be set to trigger a waybill when it has too much or too little of a commodity. That's it. Waybills don't attach to cars or travel with cars to a customer for delivery or pickup. They just sit in the waybill queue until you do something to effect the level of the commodity at the industry. Think of the waybill as saying something like "Hey railroad, I've got too much coal. Come take it and get rid of it." or "Hey railroad, I need coal. Find some and bring it to me." Over the years, many people have tried to create rules to make the system usable but always give up because the underlying system logic is just broken. Trying to operate a session with the waybill system is like the old time variety show act of spinning plates on top of sticks and trying to keep as many plates as possible spinning at once. You just end up rushing from industry to industry trying to stay ahead of the queues.

William

 

[boleyd]

So, rather than a commodity market built on demand Trainz is built on production - or
"make it and they shall come" theory. Factories around the Trainz world are producing and then placing their products (now in giant warehouses) on the Chicago market board as for sale commodities to be bid on. I almost lost a bundle bidding on coffee prices that way. Threats of lawsuits stopped the loss.

I never really looked at rules in detail. I was more interested in grass, trees, and tracks flanked by buildings. However, a railroad serving industries with inventory rather than waiting for orders might be feasible. When coal gets to a certain level a set of consuming industries could be set to trigger orders IF the time since the the last order forecasts a need. Thus producers, as described, are making stuff independent of real demand (orders) and adjusting on-hand inventories accordingly. The end production industries can apparently see this and bid for a chunk of that stack of coal. This triggers an order and away we go. A production economy based only on inventory for sale.

A perfect pathway to bankruptcy for the producers... But for Trainz a possible tie-in between producers and buyers based upon their inverse view of the economy. Or, is it? Is it a derivation of JIT (Just In Time) production. Where for a set price future raw materials are always stocked at levels based on past purchasing and future exception. The buyer is thus reasonably assured of availability of materials and NOT dependent on the whims of the producer. JIT is an actual philosophy that automotive companies need to maintain those big assembly lines supported by hundreds of suppliers. They share the market risk. "verley interesting".

 

[JimDep]

After a bit more research I suspect that you would have to control the actions of your trains through using Session Rules in the Session Editor. There is a Wait on Waybill Rule that can be used to activate a set of driver commands that would direct a train towards an industry that has a set % of product available for loading. There are no driver commands that I know of that use the Waybill.

If you have never created a session using the Session Rules and the Session Editor then there will be a learning curve.

Thanks for sharing this info. A few months ago, I was trying to figure out the Waybill system for setting up a few late 1800's freight houses. I wasn't aware of the " Waiting for Waybill rule". I'll look into that.