deadpoolmx55
LETS GO PENS!
9/9/12, unoccupied locomotives crept away in Roanoke and hit a split switch and decided to take a nap on its side
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unoccupied NS derailment
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9/9/12, unoccupied locomotives crept away in Roanoke and hit a split switch and decided to take a nap on its side
jjanmarine3
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Interesting thanks, recovery work was part of my job for many years.
deadpoolmx55
LETS GO PENS!
@JJanmarine, cool!
i think all three loco's will be just fine, the es44ac was leaking fuel but it was cleaned up in a hurry, the shops will have them fixed in a hurry too
i think all three loco's will be just fine, the es44ac was leaking fuel but it was cleaned up in a hurry, the shops will have them fixed in a hurry too
jjanmarine3
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it looks like that is the recovery crew's train in the background.
Sometimes the crew, recovery cranes, bulldozers and whatever equipment is required arrive and depart by train, depending on circumstances.
Sometimes the crew, recovery cranes, bulldozers and whatever equipment is required arrive and depart by train, depending on circumstances.
norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
this happened on 9/9/12
deadpoolmx55
LETS GO PENS!
oops, i was wrong thanks Justin!
Hi Everybody.
To us Brits on the forum it seems truly amazing how much trouble the American railways seem to have keeping their locomotives upright and on the tracks. Hardly a day goes by without some report of another derailment or accident on a crossing.
Perhaps it is just as well there are are not any HST services in the United States as I certainly wouldn't wish to travel on them given the safety record of the systems
Bill
To us Brits on the forum it seems truly amazing how much trouble the American railways seem to have keeping their locomotives upright and on the tracks. Hardly a day goes by without some report of another derailment or accident on a crossing.
Perhaps it is just as well there are are not any HST services in the United States as I certainly wouldn't wish to travel on them given the safety record of the systems
Bill
@wholbr, FWIW, we have a much larger country with less predictable services and more random locomotives in any given group. Besides, from what I have seen of this country, the people here aren't too intelligent either. BTW, HSR ops need grade seperations like they do in France and Japan. Check their records before you judge what we don't have.
Just be thankful it wasn't the Heritage units!
Just be thankful it wasn't the Heritage units!
Cows sleep standing up too. Heard of cow tipping???? Introducing "horse tipping"!!!
Hi Everybody.
The United States may be a far bigger country but I believe it has about half the track mileage that we have here in the UK. Also here in the UK the operational use of the network by the rail companies is very high with some routes operating now at almost maximum capacity.
London Paddington for example has an arrival or departure every three minutes during the working week. However, derailments are a very rare occurrence and runaways as described by the opening poster non-existent.
The safe operation of a railway is down to three simple factors, that being the training and motivation of all involved in running the network along with good maintenance of trains and equipment. Granted when accidents do happen they can be very serious due to the much higher speed of the trains and the passenger orientation of the services rather than freight, but those accidents are a very rare occurrence.
As one who travels regularly on the rail network in the course of my work either by HST, regional or district services I certainly appreciate the above safety record. I believe France and Germany also have similar records for safety when it comes to their services.
I cannot see where heritage units come into this as in the UK they would not be travelling above 25 mph by legislation if on a dedicated heritage line.
Bill
The United States may be a far bigger country but I believe it has about half the track mileage that we have here in the UK. Also here in the UK the operational use of the network by the rail companies is very high with some routes operating now at almost maximum capacity.
London Paddington for example has an arrival or departure every three minutes during the working week. However, derailments are a very rare occurrence and runaways as described by the opening poster non-existent.
The safe operation of a railway is down to three simple factors, that being the training and motivation of all involved in running the network along with good maintenance of trains and equipment. Granted when accidents do happen they can be very serious due to the much higher speed of the trains and the passenger orientation of the services rather than freight, but those accidents are a very rare occurrence.
As one who travels regularly on the rail network in the course of my work either by HST, regional or district services I certainly appreciate the above safety record. I believe France and Germany also have similar records for safety when it comes to their services.
I cannot see where heritage units come into this as in the UK they would not be travelling above 25 mph by legislation if on a dedicated heritage line.
Bill
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norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
I am sure you speak for every "Brit" as you put it. The locomotives are not upright because they rolled from the service area and went through a track safety device that did its job. That track device I am certain is in use by "Brits" as well. Surely there is a reason for that.
Maybe I should mention that here a single train could be equivalent to as much as 8 of your own in terms of length and tonnage, maybe even more. This is only one reason we dont need as much railway track. That combined with the laughable loading gauge of your system makes moving equal amounts of freight over it impossible thereby creating more roadway hazards and deaths. You should probably take a look at the bigger picture before needlessly trying to insult.
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Between 1980 and 2000 the number of miles of track in the US decreased from 202,000 to approximately 173,000.
The National Rail network of 10,072 miles in Great Britain and 189 route miles in Northern Ireland combined make for about 10,250 miles of track in the UK.
The National Rail network of 10,072 miles in Great Britain and 189 route miles in Northern Ireland combined make for about 10,250 miles of track in the UK.
jjanmarine3
Active member
Would be interesting to know how these two figures compare to the total track mileage so far in trainz respectively.( including or excluding fictional routes ?)
Ed, thank you for the objective numbers.
@wholbr, Here in the USA, we have "free press", that is, we can report on whatever we find newsworthy.
In the UK, I have no idea of what sort of press you have over there, but I'm quite certain that a majority of folks might not be interested if a loco or two rolled over over there.
Mathematically speaking, we have 17 times more track than the UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if we had 17 times more accidents.
Our trains have roughly 25% more cross-sectional area, 100% heavier axleloadings, and on average, about 10-20 feet longer than those in the UK, rolling on the exact same gauge.
And BTW, my comment on the Heritage Units was not directed at you, it was more of a "sigh of relief" that if it was inevitabley going to happen, at least it wasn't the Heritage units.
@wholbr, Here in the USA, we have "free press", that is, we can report on whatever we find newsworthy.
In the UK, I have no idea of what sort of press you have over there, but I'm quite certain that a majority of folks might not be interested if a loco or two rolled over over there.
Mathematically speaking, we have 17 times more track than the UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if we had 17 times more accidents.
Our trains have roughly 25% more cross-sectional area, 100% heavier axleloadings, and on average, about 10-20 feet longer than those in the UK, rolling on the exact same gauge.
And BTW, my comment on the Heritage Units was not directed at you, it was more of a "sigh of relief" that if it was inevitabley going to happen, at least it wasn't the Heritage units.
Williamb73
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Thank you wholbr.
Dispatch: Do you know anything abut trains?
Me: Yes they run on tracks right?
Dispatch: Only on good days!
From Atomic Train (An NBC production)
Cheers, William
Dispatch: Do you know anything abut trains?
Me: Yes they run on tracks right?
Dispatch: Only on good days!
From Atomic Train (An NBC production)
Cheers, William
Hi Everybody
Great one their William,, and I have just realised why people in the United Kingdom call them railways while in the United States they call them railroads.
In the United Kingdom the locomotives start the day on the rails and normally finish the day that way.
In the United States the locomotives start the day on the rails and normally finish the day on the road.:hehe:
Bill (Before anyone starts, the above was an attempt at humour)
Great one their William,, and I have just realised why people in the United Kingdom call them railways while in the United States they call them railroads.
In the United Kingdom the locomotives start the day on the rails and normally finish the day that way.
In the United States the locomotives start the day on the rails and normally finish the day on the road.:hehe:
Bill (Before anyone starts, the above was an attempt at humour)
Good one.