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Not long before the first trains of the morning are due, a pair of 37s prepare to leave the track possession early Monday morning.
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Not long before the first trains of the morning are due, a pair of 37s prepare to leave the track possession early Monday morning.
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Staithes_Viaduct by bendorsy KUID2: 210518:8566:1
Put me down for a Belah too....I did a bit of measuring last night and found that Kirkby Stephen East to Smatdale actually fits onto the existing baseboard with the addition of another baseboard for the east end of KSE. The tracklaying gangs have already laid a single track from Smardale - KSE and KSE to Waitby crossing...
P.S http://www.forgottenrelics.co.uk/bridges/belah.html
P.S http://www.forgottenrelics.co.uk/bridges/belah.html
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Hi Ben, if you follow the link on my post above you can see what we mean...Belah Viaduct was a 200 foot tall trestle viaduct with cast iron tubular legs on the legendary Stainmore Route which ran from Darlington to Tebay across the Pennines.Livery in early BR days (1948 onwards) was (I think) grey micaceous oxide but it was repainted in 1955 in BR(LM) cream with Maroon "socks".The line was closed in January 1962 and the viaduct was demolished soon after.Incidentally I walked the line from Barnard Castle to Kirkby Stephen East in 1996 and there were still pieces of the legs lying in the valley belowThere was a similar viaduct at Deepdale but it was only 165 feet tall and shorter in length....
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Note for lewisner. The bell cabin is still to be placed but here is another shot of Staithes Viaduct
Hi Gents:
Saved the photos and info to a folder. Looks interesting (and hi-poly).
Let me finish up a coal loading gadget and I'll get started on it. Oops - just remembered I can't print them out as my ink cartridge is empty. Something to purchase on the way to my favorite pub for the afternoons quaffing. Stimulate the economy - drink more beer (I'm doing my part, lol).
Ben
Saved the photos and info to a folder. Looks interesting (and hi-poly).
Let me finish up a coal loading gadget and I'll get started on it. Oops - just remembered I can't print them out as my ink cartridge is empty. Something to purchase on the way to my favorite pub for the afternoons quaffing. Stimulate the economy - drink more beer (I'm doing my part, lol).
Ben
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A few more from me (progress is limited because of university 
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Hi Lewisner:
I've started on it.
Do you happen to know the profile of the valley it crosses? Not all vertical supports would have been the full 200 ft tall. It looks as tho there are concrete footers under each leg. If I know the profile I can make varying height support towers with the concrete footers. If not and I make them all 200 ft tall most of the concrete footers will be under ground.
Also - do you know if it was solid deck (you can not see the ground between the ties) or open deck (you can see the ground between the ties)? Little hard to tell from the photos.
Ben
I've started on it.
Do you happen to know the profile of the valley it crosses? Not all vertical supports would have been the full 200 ft tall. It looks as tho there are concrete footers under each leg. If I know the profile I can make varying height support towers with the concrete footers. If not and I make them all 200 ft tall most of the concrete footers will be under ground.
Also - do you know if it was solid deck (you can not see the ground between the ties) or open deck (you can see the ground between the ties)? Little hard to tell from the photos.
Ben
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Hi ben, there are several photos and drawings of belah in the late Peter Waltons book "The Stainmore and Eden Valley Railways" and a guy made a 4 mm scale model of Deepdale viaduct with diagrams in Model Railways magazine in 1975.I'll see if i can scan them for you.Heres a description "A unique feature of Belah and Deepdale Viaducts was the tapering of the main ironwork from a 50ft dimension at the base to less than half that at the top.Belah, 1,049 feet long and 196 feet high spanned the valley by means of 15 vertical piers (16 spans) each composed of cast iron, 12 inch diameter columns arranged in 2 parallel lines of 3 each and braced to each other by cross girders at 5 feet intervals.This main framework was tied together by wrought iron bars.The 15 piers were pitched at a nominal 60ft apart and were topped with a lattice girder arrangement which included an internal, integral walkway..Large,special timbers were provided for the decking, ornamental cast parapets 24 feet apart and topped with timber handrailing completed this marvellous structure." Heres another link with a good photo of one of the abutments http://www.cumbria-railways.co.uk/belah9.html which were roughly 35 feet from rail level to ground level and supprted an "X" truss longitudinal span about 7 feet deep.The valley sides sloped at an average of 20 degrees from ground level at the abutments, and each abutment was 35 feet long.Hope this helps.
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Belah Viaduct
Hi Ben
A few more detailed pictures of the Belah Viaduct http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/b/belah_viaduct/index.shtml
For a map of the site go to http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ hit the red key I want to Get a Map Now put the reference NY840105 in the search box top left of the next screen the contour heights are at 50ft vertical intervals
Details 1049 ft long 196ft high demolished 1964
Again many thanks for the Staithes Bob V
Hi Ben
A few more detailed pictures of the Belah Viaduct http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/b/belah_viaduct/index.shtml
For a map of the site go to http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ hit the red key I want to Get a Map Now put the reference NY840105 in the search box top left of the next screen the contour heights are at 50ft vertical intervals
Details 1049 ft long 196ft high demolished 1964
Again many thanks for the Staithes Bob V
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Hi Ben,
Some more information on Belah Viaduct from "The Stainmore Route" by Ken Hoole:
16 x 60ft spans
1040ft long
196ft maximum height
24ft wide between parapets
The valley is a classic "V" shape, quite symmetrical it seems. The viaduct gradient is quite significant though at 1 in 60 from my gradient profile.
I have some photos of the deck I can send to you.
Thanks for offering to do this, very much appreciated.
I see Lewisner has got there first with most of thie above!
SP
Some more information on Belah Viaduct from "The Stainmore Route" by Ken Hoole:
16 x 60ft spans
1040ft long
196ft maximum height
24ft wide between parapets
The valley is a classic "V" shape, quite symmetrical it seems. The viaduct gradient is quite significant though at 1 in 60 from my gradient profile.
I have some photos of the deck I can send to you.
Thanks for offering to do this, very much appreciated.
I see Lewisner has got there first with most of thie above!
SP
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Hi Gents:
Thanks for the extra info (I have a few things to change, lol).
The only thing which does not compute is the 5 ft spacing of the bracing on the piers. If the tallest in the photos is 196 ft it would require 39 of them yet the photos only show 10 (20 ft spacing).
Ben
Thanks for the extra info (I have a few things to change, lol).
The only thing which does not compute is the 5 ft spacing of the bracing on the piers. If the tallest in the photos is 196 ft it would require 39 of them yet the photos only show 10 (20 ft spacing).
Ben
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For those that haven't seen it:
22889 on test with a load of 8 Mk1s (no, it couldn't start the train on a gradient! It just did it on the level.)
22889's first public run, before being sent to a lathe for tyre repofiling.
Available for download, look on UK Trainz
(now I know why carrying a huge 20.1" laptop was a bad idea, as I wrote this, I'm at Uni and it was a big problem carrying it!)
22889 on test with a load of 8 Mk1s (no, it couldn't start the train on a gradient! It just did it on the level.)
22889's first public run, before being sent to a lathe for tyre repofiling.
Available for download, look on UK Trainz
(now I know why carrying a huge 20.1" laptop was a bad idea, as I wrote this, I'm at Uni and it was a big problem carrying it!)
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