UK Content especially tunnels?

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Zapata935

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Dear All, If there is one drastic thing lacking in Trainz content it is tunnels, especially those from the UK. Let's face it it is the home of the railway. These tunnels created by hard working, fine upstanding Irish gentlemen, with shovels and wheelbarrows, dynamite and balls in hand, is sadly represented in content on this website!
Tunnels in the UK would be blackened to the devil's waist-coat with 200 years of soot! I have not seen anything that looks remotely realistic yet!
Forgive me if I am being over critical but a sim is a sim, or have I got that wrong!
Best Wishes Zapata935
 
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Especially brick and stone ones. What I mean is ones not made of just brick or just stone. A lot of the ones around by where I am are made of a combination of them both. I admit that they may not be high on anybody else's list but eventually I shall have to have a go at making some. Mm more things to add to the learning curve. Oh well - winter will be on us soon so I shall not have my reenacting as an excuse for not having a go :)
 
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pfx said:
I'm sure you meant no offence there but it's not the most complementary way to be referring to the Irish.
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Maybe Navigators might be better. The men that dug the railways (where they needed digging) were the same ones that built/dug the canals or navigations.

Angela
 
Zapata935 said:
Forgive me if I am being over critical but a sim is a sim, or have I got that wrong!
Best Wishes Zapata935
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Well Zapata, I would question your statement a least in the context of Trainz. While there is most certainly some excellent (realistic) workmanship available to us, my ongoing frustration with the Auran folk is that they appear to be taking Trainz in the direction of simply a game, rather than a representation of reality. Of course there may well be more business potential as a game...........but I cannot help but think that gaming and reality could both be effectively covered. May be if one can successfully market Fred Flintstone as representative of a human being (figuratively speaking), then where is the incentive to replicate a more realistic image?

Solution: Start creating your own assets as necessary and/or search DLS for the best there is!
 
If you want an impression of something coated in soot and grime, all you have to do is darken its texture files with an image editor, and possible desaturate the colours a bit too. This is my SR/LBSCR Brick Tunnel 1/2t to which I have done just that, and my tunnel lining spline which is already dark. It's best to clone the item first, in case you mess it up or in case you want a clean one in the future....

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angelah said:
Maybe Navigators might be better. The men that dug the railways (where they needed digging) were the same ones that built/dug the canals or navigations.

Angela
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Hehe, much better.

@ Zapata935 - As well as jayholland's tunnels, there are also andi06's ones. Both are very good and are used a great deal on UK routes (check out the UK screenshots forum). I think perhaps, you are being somewhat over critical in your assessment of available content without first having explored all the available options. Either that, or I'm too easily pleased?
 
Well much of the railways especially in difficult areas here in Scotland were built by the Paddies and Highlanders who often spent their time off building by fighting each other. Don't think the term was always meant to be derogatory. I've heard some cruder names given to Highlanders incorporating useage of a particular woollen farm animal. And then there is Ailsa Craig off the West Coast and happily nicknamed "Paddy's Milestone"! Didn't the well known crooner Val Doonican used to sing about Paddy McGinty's Goat?
 
I can't change history, no matter how you word it!

Thanks for the response, to pfx, I don't do political correctness, It is mind control for the weak! But I take your comment seriously. History dictates that most of Britains railways, cannals, reservoir's were built by migrant Irish workers. Now if I was to walk into a pub in Dublin, I would be classed as a Brit! If you were to walk into my local you would be automatically classed as a paddy! What is so shamefull about those name handles? Both are hard won and well earnt!
To Driver Col, thanks for the greatest route on trainz! Sheffield to Leeds! A classic.
To JayHolland, don't talk about it just do it and post it up for grabs! Thanks!
To Angela, Where were you in 1970?
Best Wishes Zapata935
 
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@ zapata - by your logic, if I were Chinese or African and walked into your local and people called me certain names, that's okay? It amounts to the same thing regardless of how you see it. To be honest, I wouldn't care if you called me paddy though I'm sure if you said the same to my wife, she wouldn't be quite so forgiving.

@ rjhowie - that was because the Weegies were too soft. I'm off to the railway tomorrow for some heavy labour. Might get you some pics of the railbus while I'm there if you want them. I'll take them anyway and if you want them, I'll forward them on.
 
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Zapata935 said:
Moral high ground is easily spoken about and from! Best Wishes Zapata935
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Ignorance is bliss.

@rjhowie. Despite putting in the hardest day of manual labour I've managed in years (I'll probably be asleep by 10!) I took a few pics of the railbus. Probably looks a bit more 'tired' than you remember it. It does run though, well, the engine runs. Sadly, it's as reliable in preservation as it was in service. Here you go.

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angelah said:
Maybe Navigators might be better. The men that dug the railways (where they needed digging) were the same ones that built/dug the canals or navigations.

Angela
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I agree. Some people can be rude... We're a mixed community and there's no need for insulting statements like this. :(

Anyway, they were the same folks that did a lot of the work building railroads and canals in the east over here in the US.

http://www.lowermerionhistory.org/texts/schmidtd/irish_cemetery.html

Now back to topic for the Z: There are plenty of tunnels out there. You need to look and experiment with the ones available. The Czech developers have created some awesome tunnels. You'll have to check outside of the DLS and built-in stuff if you want them, though. http://www.trainzpedro.cz/

John
 
Drooling pictures there pfx. Thought I would give myself a break from creating Ballymena in deepest County Antrim for another look. Must drag myself away or will never get past it towards Ballymoney, Coleraine, Londonderry, Portrush....

By the way the fights betwen the 'Heilanders' and the Irish whilst building was a fairly balanced thing and always after some John Barleycorn visits! On a sadder note some building deaths I understand had graves not far away. And here I am building what is left of the Ulster rail scene from a distant house in Scotland with a glass of Irn Bru.

Very awkward when you don't have a boat.
 
Interesting pictures pfx. An acquired taste, I know, but to my mind possibly one of the most appalling things ever placed in rails! :hehe:
(I was always sick on buses, so imagine my horror when these things started turning up at my local station!)

Paul
 
Paulsw2 said:
Interesting pictures pfx. An acquired taste, I know, but to my mind possibly one of the most appalling things ever placed in rails! :hehe:
(I was always sick on buses, so imagine my horror when these things started turning up at my local station!)

Paul
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Hehe. Not my favourite piece of rolling stock either. More as a favour for rjhowie as I know he's fond of them.
 
Yep, I was fortunate to have travelled when this was actually in regular use by NIRailways. It ran from Coleraine which is a junction station on the Belfast-Londonderry route.

Don't think it was universally appreciated and not at any speed I admit. I do recall it running at least one summer but not sure if two. But going over to nearby Castlerock annually for summer camp we used it after changing at Coleraine. The boys were puzzled at it unlike myself of course! With a big bunch like us on it the thing got overcrowded easily. The following year it languished forlornly in the Coleraine sidings. So it didn't last long after the money spent and they reverted back to DMU's on the Portrush branch. Eventually it went to the transport section of the Ulster Folk Museum. I always had a soft spot for the unsual and being an NIR one. They didn't last long here in Scotland years ago either. As I like the NIR and building it one of these when my present NIR build reaches Coleraine junction would be like offering a kid a lollipop!!
 
@ rjhowie, My ancestry goes back to being from one of the original 14 tribes from Galway so if rjhowie is working on an Irish layout… why a can of irn bru? Wouldn’t you find a can of Guinness more suitable? I build GWR and Cornish layouts so a bottle of nettle beer is the order of the day. (hic) Oh! To stick to the thread, AJS tunnels are used on my layouts.
 
I,m waiting for someone to post a good Irish joke:) To me Paddy and Jock are just nicknames and I can,t see anything wrong with that. If you ask me pollitical correctness can go too far. And if they wish to use my (english) nickname..... Go ahead.ST George for Merry England and all that.
 
A reasonable point there about nicknames. Jock is about the same as Paddy?

Snowhill, to answer your point about Irn Bru.

I'm Scots I live in Glasgow and Irn Bru as per the adverts is Scotland's other national drink. Indeed it holds it's own against Coca-Cola and Pepsi! And as an earlier ad said it is 'made from girders' (!). I am an occasional visitor to Ulster and enjoy my breaks there. Took camps for years and holidayed both with the family and myself and still do. There are still a couple of distant relatives and associations there as well. If I can complete this biggish job finishing the NIRailways in Ulster and do manage to stretch the Border line to Dublin it will then mean that Trainz has a modern contribution from across the Irish Sea. Not before time?!

Now where is my (diet) Irn Bru bottle.....?
 
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