I am looking for trees that look good, but don't have a detrimental effect on my computer when they are in large numbers. I have found some trees by mcguirel that look really good and don't reduce performance too bad, but I have to have tree detail on low when they are in large numbers. Does anybody have some suggestions on other trees?
Tree Suggestions?
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I am using JVC's "turn-to-camera" trees. Seems to be no limit to the number one can use. Do they look good? See: http://www.doug56.net/MBC_2010_TS12_Route/page73.html
Cayden
I found the Cattaraugus Creek and Lake Erie to be virtually unplayable until I replaced the trees with JVC payware "camera facing".
I am getting 64 FPS zoomed out and 85 FPS at train level instead of 16 and 25 with the old trees.
Harold
Edit: I did try Pofig's Speedtrees replacement and the route ran just as slow.
I am getting 64 FPS zoomed out and 85 FPS at train level instead of 16 and 25 with the old trees.
Harold
Edit: I did try Pofig's Speedtrees replacement and the route ran just as slow.
Yes, I bought a bunch of those and I'm not impressed. If you move around, the tree seems to be turning toward you with the same look. I don't like it, but that's just my opinion.
Dave
Seriously?
Have you looked in his thread over in the Freeware section?
He has so many tree's that you could not possibly ever use them all. Trees of all shapes and sizes from around the world and all gentle on the PC resources. Mix these in with a few bit's n bob's from the JVC collection and you'll have a picture postcard in no time. :wave:
For am MP route you are kinda stuck, because it has to be DLS and neither Jan's nor Pofig's good stuff is there.
For a true 3D tree for non-DLS imho you can't beat Pofig's stuff. Is it perfect - no, but for good fps and a good general 'look' they can't be beaten.
Jan's turn-to-camera billboards are brilliant for performance and make stunning screenshots because the load is so low the limiter thing alloows the trees to draw all the way to the horizon. Like Dave though I find them kinda disconcerting in-game because you can almost see the trees 'rotate' as you pass. That's not quite right, but I do find them visually disconcerting. I haven't tried his payware stuff though, that assesment is based on the free turn-to-camera grasses and shrubs that I've tried.
Is there a 'perfect' Trainz tree? Probably not. You just try what's out there and go with what works for you...
Andy
For a true 3D tree for non-DLS imho you can't beat Pofig's stuff. Is it perfect - no, but for good fps and a good general 'look' they can't be beaten.
Jan's turn-to-camera billboards are brilliant for performance and make stunning screenshots because the load is so low the limiter thing alloows the trees to draw all the way to the horizon. Like Dave though I find them kinda disconcerting in-game because you can almost see the trees 'rotate' as you pass. That's not quite right, but I do find them visually disconcerting. I haven't tried his payware stuff though, that assesment is based on the free turn-to-camera grasses and shrubs that I've tried.
Is there a 'perfect' Trainz tree? Probably not. You just try what's out there and go with what works for you...
Andy
Mix both which I've done.
Also check out trees by gawpo50. He also made some awesome Speed Tree variants as well from all over the world. They look really nice and mix well with the McGuirel Trees.
John
A few words about camera-facing vegetation...
In the first place, the camera facing trees where not ment as 'main' vegetation, but to be used behind a line of 3D trees. The camera facing trees look much better than 3D trees at some distance as they will keep their 'look' at longer distance compared the 3D trees (my opinion). If you see all screenshots I doubt many ppl will disagree with me here...
Shrubs may have the same effect as trees but in smaller amount as they are smaller in size. For grass I do not see any option for the camera facing vegetation. Splines look terrible in Ts12 (ok in Ts2010) as you see the edge and the plane sides (of a billboarded) grass is way too visible. You either have to choose the 'ugly' edge/visible plane type OR a camera facing grass without this effect. You can't use 3D grass/groundcover vegetation as it will blow your PC skyhigh regarding framerates (except for a bare landscape 'desert' type). Even if you have a brand new PC, you can't use 3D grass and if you do, you have to be very carefull using it and you no longer have a smooth running layout/route.
Most of the 3D trees also use 'camera-facing' leafs and I have tested it against static leafs. The 'camera-facing' leafs look much better and are used by Pofig, Mc Guirel and myself. But if you take a close look you will notice that they are 'locked on' to you
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My point here is to use the right type of vegetation for the right setting and you don't need a high-poly 3D tree 200 meters away...
Jan
In the first place, the camera facing trees where not ment as 'main' vegetation, but to be used behind a line of 3D trees. The camera facing trees look much better than 3D trees at some distance as they will keep their 'look' at longer distance compared the 3D trees (my opinion). If you see all screenshots I doubt many ppl will disagree with me here...
Shrubs may have the same effect as trees but in smaller amount as they are smaller in size. For grass I do not see any option for the camera facing vegetation. Splines look terrible in Ts12 (ok in Ts2010) as you see the edge and the plane sides (of a billboarded) grass is way too visible. You either have to choose the 'ugly' edge/visible plane type OR a camera facing grass without this effect. You can't use 3D grass/groundcover vegetation as it will blow your PC skyhigh regarding framerates (except for a bare landscape 'desert' type). Even if you have a brand new PC, you can't use 3D grass and if you do, you have to be very carefull using it and you no longer have a smooth running layout/route.
Most of the 3D trees also use 'camera-facing' leafs and I have tested it against static leafs. The 'camera-facing' leafs look much better and are used by Pofig, Mc Guirel and myself. But if you take a close look you will notice that they are 'locked on' to you
...My point here is to use the right type of vegetation for the right setting and you don't need a high-poly 3D tree 200 meters away...
Jan
Hi John
Thanks for the free plug there, much appreciated. There will be more trees done later this year hopefully, I can't say when as I have so much dev work on my plate that I can't seem to find enough hours in the day. Most is for a new route that is being done which the loco's in separate threads plus a series of animated proto turnouts when ready.
Peter
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My thoughts exactly.
I don't, however, mix Pofig's trees with others' trees, as Pofig's trees have mipmapping of their foliage textures disabled, causing the sparkly/glittery effect that they have, making them stand out from others' trees. Of course, your taste may vary.
Hey, you're welcome Peter. I try to throw the free adverts around for awesome creators.
Good luck on your dev work. I understand about the lack of time. I work 60 hours a week now due to a bunch of new hires that just started.
John
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