Trainz on Ubuntu?

[epa]

I hope some tech nerd here can answer this question for me.

I'm wondering if anyone here is running TS12 on a Ubuntu PC, and if so, how they are doing it. I know the Wine app allows Windows programs to run on Ubuntu, but I know some programs do not work with Wine. Is Trainz one of these programs?

Matt

 

[clam1952]

Been discussed a few times now.

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?129102-Running-Trainz-on-Linux

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?79133-Trainz-running-in-Linux

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/show...-tried-running-TS12-on-Ubuntu-14-04-with-Wine

I've abandoned the idea for the present.

 

[Zeldaboy14]

Now, I know very little about Linux, but having used it a few times, I can say it's not really a gaming OS. It's code is far different then Windows and Macintosh.

 

[epa]

Been discussed a few times now.

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?129102-Running-Trainz-on-Linux

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?79133-Trainz-running-in-Linux

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/show...-tried-running-TS12-on-Ubuntu-14-04-with-Wine

I've abandoned the idea for the present.

Thanks for the links Malc. Sounds like a lost cause for now, though I am running Ubuntu 16.04 (the version that just came out last week), while these posts are written by folks on 14.04. I wonder if the new version would work Trainz any better than past versions? I have had a few other games working decently on Ubuntu (an older version, I think 10.x), but I haven't tried it in recent days.
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Has anyone used PlayOnLinux? It's supposed to be like Wine, but more aimed towards gaming. Would it work for Trainz?

Matt

 

[wilts747]

I use Linux in preference to Windows daily and unfortunately to date have been unable to get TS2012 running satisfactory on any distro or version of Linux includes Ubuntu 16.04 which I tried this past weekend. However TS2004, TS2006 and TS2009 all function very well on Linux in conjunction with Wine as does TS2010 although its CM can be a little temperamental at times.

If you are keen on experimenting PlayOnLinux, based on Wine and Vineyard, a Wine front ends seem to use resources unnecessarily so you are probably better off steering clear of them. In my experience Debain base distos seem to work better than others however Ubuntu is quite heavy so the lighter Lubuntu or LXLE tend to provide a better starting points.

Through Wine, Trainz sees Linux as a Windows OS and requires at least the same basic memory and graphic requirements. Recently nVidea have been quite good at keeping their Linux graphic drivers up to date although not quite as frequently as their Window drivers.

What I've never tried is Codeweavers - Crossover, the commercial variant of Wine. Its reported as being a more refined version of Wine with support for a large range of Window/Mac applications and games, but at half the price of a Windows OEM OS in the UK, it would seems a bit of a retrograde purchase and sort of defeats the interest in Linux for the majority.

Regarding the great Windows/Mac/Linux debate I would agree Window games for Windows, etc. etc. but before writing Linux off as a lost cause or perhaps only for us 'Geeks' why not give some of the FREE games on offer a go. Linux can be downloaded and installed on a USB memory stick for free in less than 30 minutes and will run on most computers without going anywhere near your current OS. Peter

 

[cascaderailroad]

The real question is being that MS Windows, and Apple MAC are the 2 main OS on the market ... Why would anyone want to purposely go out and sidestep these major OS, and go out and buy Linux and Ubuntu, then want to run video games on them ... The only "wine" I want to touch is Riunite Blackberry Merlot $13.99 gallon

 

[wilts747]

You don't buy Linux/Ubuntu its free to download along with dozens of other variants of Linux and hundreds of free games including railroad simulators. I/we use it because its free and something other than Microsoft, as is Android or Chrome or Blackberry etc. Whats more many popular Linux can be run directly from USB and/or CD/DVD without the need to install them onto a HDD/SSD. Whats more secure than doing your online banking from a closed Linux CD/DVD. Peter

 

[simulatortrain]

The real question is being that MS Windows, and Apple MAC are the 2 main OS on the market ... Why would anyone want to purposely go out and sidestep these major OS, and go out and buy Linux and Ubuntu, then want to run video games on them ... The only "wine" I want to touch is Riunite Blackberry Merlot $13.99 gallon

I'll sell you a used copy of Ubuntu for cheap, PM me

 

[PerRock]

Now, I know very little about Linux, but having used it a few times, I can say it's not really a gaming OS. It's code is far different then Windows and Macintosh.

Actually Linux and Mac are pretty similar. Someone here can correct me (and educate you further if desired) but from my basic understanding both Linux and Mac are based off from the BSD system.

peter

 

[pdkoester]

Why would you try to waste time running a Windows based game on another O/S? I think if you were lucky enough to get it functional, at all, it would be crippled by lack of what it uses in Windows.

 

[WindWalkr]

Actually Linux and Mac are pretty similar. Someone here can correct me (and educate you further if desired) but from my basic understanding both Linux and Mac are based off from the BSD system.

Not really. They're more similar to each other than they are to Windows, but that's about as far as it goes. Also Windows is getting a Linux compatibility layer, so that comment is only true for native apps.

For starters, Linux isn't BSD based. BSD and Linux both implement the posix APIs and have other similarities, but they're not the same thing.

Secondly, and more importantly, native Mac apps don't use X11, Wayland, KDE, Unity, Gnome, QT, or any of those other familiar linux frameworks. They use Cocoa, which doesn't really have a linux equivalent. So while it's true that filesystem, networking, and opengl techniques are nearly identical between Mac OS X and Linux, the GUI layer is entirely different.

Finally, don't underestimate the impact that small differences can have on development costs. Something as simple as the fact that Linux tends to use a case-sensitive filesystem, whereas MacOS and Windows do not, can require substantial development and testing effort to work around.

chris

 

[wilts747]

I think what many do not appreciate that until a few years ago Windows was not an OS in its own right, it was a front end, a graphic user interface to DOS. DOS with its many derivatives was an alternative to Unix. from which Linux was developed, plus a host of similar mostly forgotten OS such as C/PM. In respect of OS, Windows did not reinvent the wheel but made it one hell of a lot easier to turn, try imaging using Trainz without the mouse and the ability to drag and drop. For most the Macintosh, which already had its own GUI, was un-affordable hence Windows with its easy of operation took off.

I have never heard any Linux user suggest specific applications or games should be migrated to Linux, which is more can be said for a few of the Mac users on here who are inquiring where the Mac version of something is the moment a new Windows version has been released. Yes we would like it but although Linux users may be perceived as Geeks some of us do live in the real world and appreciate the commercial sense of development.

However, while Linux may not be a key player in the would of computer games and simulations, although there are hundreds of extremely good games and simulations it the Linux library, don't discard it to quickly as it provides the backbone of the majority of servers, routers, NAS etc. we currently rely upon to enable our enjoyment of what we take for granted on Windows and Mac platform. As for commercial sense, more and more main stream applications are being written to include Linux sufficient to worry Microsoft particularly in respect of Office, and to give away Windows 10. Peter

 

[Saieditor]

I tried Ubuntu out for one year. The only problem I had was with the mbox format used for email archives (import, export). Other than that, it was an amazingly simple OS to learn, and to build - and add this, that and the other - to. When Windows won't boot there is nothing better than to bung in a Linux distro on DVD and boot up and get going. And then have a file with all your passwords.

I tried a few, Mint, RedHat, openSUSE, Debian. All quite useful, still have the DVD's. I never used Wine although.

Just checked out the 10 best Ubuntu distros and put one on a USB stick and booted to that. Interesting, things are much simpler now.