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Quite a few....It's funny you should ask.

JIb228 said:
Coming from my model railroading background, and knowing that at one club we have at least 30 nude people hidden in buildings and train cars. I have to ask, how many Bigfoots and M4's are hidden through out the railroad? Or wont you tell?
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Big Foots are everywhere along with Lamp Post Linda, and rail man 5.

Speaking of hidden items.....Look at what I found on those ore cars I just purchased..I could swear there was a lady on this tile maybe two.

I just can't get in close enough. But, If I thought they were nude I'd a got get my reading glasses.


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The Map showed the South Main....

had a junction behind the engine house.....look at that fit. I did not have to touch those hills behind the engine house....just lay the damm track an head out of town.


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And so far...

I've only lost a Marina, A Park and about 50 Million in Homes.

We'll on second thought a Buck-Fifty in Homes.
 
Dead River Branch is in....

From Google Earth you can still see the route that it took by the cut through the trees.

It crossed the Dead River down by the North Power Station, went under the ramp leading to the ore docks and came out behind the LS&I West Yard where they had there Lumber Mill and Loading Docks on the Shores of Lake Superior.

Down at the bottom are outlines of the North Main Leading to the Upper Yard.


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And here's the Entire Upper & Lower Yard in Marquette, MI

A few more service tracks need to into the upper yard yet, but this is the relation ship between the Upper Yard Top, Lower Yard Right, Dead River Branch...first juction left heading up. LS&I tracks comming in from the Top Right.


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come to think of it, i think I've seen photos on Railpictures.net of LS&I RS-3s sitting on the Dead River Branch...I know i've seen them running under the ore dock.

BTW, this is actually in Marquette Right? I've seen enough old shots of the place to kinda sorta know where i am (in the 1950's probably...:o it's the whole steam guy thing) but i'm having trouble transfering the track plan to my mental image (bearing in mind mine's probably all wrong anyway). I think a trip around google earth is in order.

Just saying, this route looks killer. If it's in a future version of trainz, I'd definitely buy it just to run this. though it needs about a dozen more 2-8-0s.:p
 
Yes Marquette...

sawyer811 said:
BTW, this is actually in Marquette Right? I've seen enough old shots of the place to kinda sorta know where i am (in the 1950's probably...:o it's the whole steam guy thing) but i'm having trouble transfering the track plan to my mental image (bearing in mind mine's probably all wrong anyway). I think a trip around google earth is in order.

Just saying, this route looks killer. If it's in a future version of trainz, I'd definitely buy it just to run this. though it needs about a dozen more 2-8-0s.:p
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Steam would certianly work on this route, but they'll need a set of balls to make the grades it's not near as "flat" as those pictures look....but I think I'll get the route up to the "peak" Rail first, and then look at modifications.

FWIW Steam...I'm going to be putting in Coaling Towers and Water Towers in Yards for guys like you and Bob Cass.

I mean really that dead river branch wipped out A medical center, a subdivision or two...some university buildings...so if I have to move that highway in Champion back 60ft to put in the Steam Assets....no problem. It's a game first. But it will Make Marquette more interesting. Because let's face it...with out that branch going through the center of town, or the Upper Yard for that matter....there's no reason to model Marquette at all....Except for the LS&I West Yard & an Ore Dock.

For that matter Negaunee, Ishpeming, National Mine, Nestoria, L'Anse...la de da...won't look like they do today. But you could say "Zennith" of Steam, or "Twilight"...between WWII & the Korean Wars.

When I get up to Houghton & Handcock, going to set a time period certian. The Keweenaw Peninsula will be Standard guage.
 
C&NW Get's their first facility on the Board.

This is one of 4 Ishpeming Yards I have completed for the C&NW. This one sets on the west side of town, east of the Carp River. Not from Google, but again from Paper Maps.

This line went right through the center of town and made this impossible to do the roads with existing Yarn or Yarnish Assets, before the rail was put back in,.... as you have streets comming in at all angles without the Rail in there.

And that would make this another town not worth modeling, except for the current Euclid Yard.

But when the rail was put back in, the roads did not cross a 7 line yard....they went around it, eliminating the funky intersections.

By putting the rail back in, the roads in town will work with Yarnish assets, as the town was built around the rails anyway on mostly right angles, it can be completed..

Besides that C&NW needed facilities on this route.

The track to the far left was operated by the Duluth South Shore & Atlantic (DSS&A). There is another Yard further East for a Large Lumber Yard. The LS&I was also a visitor to this area.


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Speaking of the Devil, LS&I....

Has a facility on the South Side of the C&NW Yard in Ishpeming. Next to that Dem Hole in the Ground...Google Earth doesn't show it, but it's an old Open Pit cut for Ore....all it took was some paint to bring it back in.

The LS&I line continues to it's Facility, and then runs back in to Negaunee, along with the DSS&A and the C&NW.

C&NW goes through the center of Ishpeming, LS&I is on the South Side and the DSS&A center and South.

I have two more books comming, one is a 1946 railroad atlas of every Line, every siding, every Depot, every switch, every yard, every branch, and every junction in Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois....another covers the Michigan Iron Ore Industries, every Mine, every furnace, every building...years of production, production and how they shipped.

The Map is bound to get more detailed and acurate.


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The good thing is....

I'm wiping out a ton of current subdivisions and roads in both Ishpeming and Negaunee. It's a Trainz Game.
 
See putting the rail in where the rail was...

is gonna make the job of laying down the streets and roads much simpler, not requiring complex road intersections.

And I've still got 2 more service tracks to put in this Lumber Yard. Chicago & Northwestern Round House down the Tracks along the line. Off to the Left you can see faintly a line laid down which will evently have a yard created around it 5 tracks wide removing all the rest of the "goofy" road intersections in Ishpeming. That Mess, and this Mess end up in Negaunee and will fix that road mess too.


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Just looking at the maps...

made me wonder how many other small open pit diggings are in the DEM which do not show up on Google Earth because they are grown over. Map says open pit cut south of the Lumber Yard....and I'll be dammed, add some paint and there it is.


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Look they are everywhere.....

In fact that small lake in the back...is the exact site of the Cleveland Lake Mine.

Gonna wipe out a all the roads over here....


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And here it is on Paper...

sawyer811 said:
come to think of it, i think I've seen photos on Railpictures.net of LS&I RS-3s sitting on the Dead River Branch...I know i've seen them running under the ore dock.

BTW, this is actually in Marquette Right? I've seen enough old shots of the place to kinda sorta know where i am (in the 1950's probably...:o it's the whole steam guy thing) but i'm having trouble transfering the track plan to my mental image (bearing in mind mine's probably all wrong anyway). I think a trip around google earth is in order.

Just saying, this route looks killer. If it's in a future version of trainz, I'd definitely buy it just to run this. though it needs about a dozen more 2-8-0s.:p
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This is a 1911 map. There were two Crossings over time South and North of the existing Power Plant. That yard showing up where the Yooper Dome now sits is The Pioneer Iron Co's Furance....How much you wanna bet what I put in there. The Furnace or the Dome?


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That's the way I was thinking.

Euphod said:
Furnace first, ask questions later...;)
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This map was a great big help...this show all the Players, Lake Superior & Ispeming, Duluth South Shore & Atlantic, and the Chicago & Northwesterns routes from the funnel at Nequanee, MI to Marquette.

Ie... How traffic moved off the hill to the Docks. Tucked away in a Power Transmisson Line Survery.


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You'll absolutely never do this with out a map.

Winthrop JCT. Ishpeming, MI. The JCT is named after the Mine, not the Road, the Road is named after either one, JCT or Mine. Take your pick, because both were in before the road. And you can see how the tracks are all over existing Google Earth Road Images. Infact the track is on the north side of the small pond and the lake...not inbetween them as Google Earth shows.

You have the DSS&A on the Compass Points N,S,E,W... Then you have the C&NW comming off it's National Mine Branch South(Top Left) merging with the DSS&A East Bottom Left to come out on the South Side of Ishpeming into a Joint Yard, where the LS&I comes in from it's Service Yard.

It was certianly complex back in the day.


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